CB1: Venting on Bars; Move to Ban Concert Series


At last night’s CB1 meeting, there was a lot of discussion about what some community board members see as an over-saturation of bars and restaurants in Williamsburg and Greenpoint, with a surprise motion at the end of the meeting to ban the waterfront concert series at East River State Park, according to Brooklyn 11211. At the beginning of the meeting, a resident expressed concern specifically about the noise level at Alma Lounge on Roebling, saying “Once a company has a liquor license, their message to the community in a lot of cases is pretty much a middle finger.” Later, CB1 Chair Christopher Olechowski spoke more generally about the proposed moratorium on all new liquor licenses going forward. “This is not about a specific bar or complaint,” he said. “It’s a question of how much this community can stand.” In 2010, 138 new liquor license applications were approved in the neighborhood, with another 54 in 2011. Although some of those application weren’t green-lighted by CB1, the State Liquor Authority OK’d all of them. CB1′s executive board wants to request that the SLA join in this moratorium, which will be discussed further at next month’s board meeting. The big news, however, happened after we left, during the public session. Brooklyn 11211 reports that a number of residents complained about the noise and traffic the East River State Park concerts cause during the summer. So, “the Community Board voted (unanimously) to ban the waterfront concert series from East River State Park.” Since the board is advisory, we’re not clear on whether this means the concerts won’t happen. But last night there was definitely a shift to be seen in how CB1 is dealing with North Brooklyn’s social scene.
Williamsburg Bans Music [Brooklyn 11211]
Liquor License Crackdown in Williamsburg? [Brownstoner]

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  • “”So, “the Community Board voted (unanimously) to ban the waterfront concert series from East River State Park.”

    Pretty damn silly. I’d wager that I live a lot closer to the park than most CB members and it is really not a problem.

    i see more mess monday mornings after the brooklyn flea than i did last summer after the concerts.

    and noise? since they turned the stage to face the river, you can’t hear the music if you’re more than 2 blocks away.

    if anything ban it because OSA has been doing a bad job at running the shows there.

  • WBer – you need to keep your peoples in check!!

  • I’m no fan of noise but East River is a public park, is it not? So I think CB1 is basically p*ssing in the wind on that one. And isn’t it all of the concerts and public art events one of the things that makes the city liveable?

  • “And isn’t it all of the concerts and public art events one of the things that makes the city liveable?”

    yeah – but in defense of the CB, most of the shows at the park are expensive, ticketed OSA “benefit” shows – and the artists really only appeal to a certain demographic. prospect park does a much better job getting a diverse group of artists in that appeal to a broader audience.

  • Thanks DH- didn’t know that. But if the concerts were more diverse, don’t you think CB1 would still complain?

  • who knows bxgrl! perhaps they’d be more likely to put up with the nuisance if they could enjoy it.

    the complainers on PPW don’t seem to have a prob with the shows in Prospect park!

  • “and noise? since they turned the stage to face the river, you can’t hear the music if you’re more than 2 blocks away.”

    Disagree, DH. I’m up in Greenpoint near Calyer/Franklin, and I can hear the shows clearly in our backyard. It’s usually done by 10pm, though. Not a huge deal, but if I was closer, it might be more annoying.

  • Yikes, that’s me: We’re not in favor of “dry” BUT we spoke last night to encourage CB1 to increase its involvement when there are bars/clubs operating as chronic violators. The issue for us is ENFORCEMENT. Specifically, we live directly above the Alma lounge and our apartment’s shake from the music/bass (Thur-Sun 11pm-5am). Our experience of patiently working with the 90th, DEP, ECB, DCA, FDNY, SLA, DOB illustrates that the enforcement agency’s cannot handle the increase.

    http://bit.ly/euRx67

  • “Disagree, DH. I’m up in Greenpoint near Calyer/Franklin, and I can hear the shows clearly in our backyard. It’s usually done by 10pm, though. Not a huge deal, but if I was closer, it might be more annoying. ”

    damn – i’m two blocks away and can’t hear it at all. perhaps the towers muffle the sound.

  • quote:
    So I think CB1 is basically p*ssing in the wind on that one.

    it’s farting in the wind, not pissing. pissing makes zero cents!

    *rob*

  • you could alternative have also said “pissing in the red hook pool” which is the same thing as farting in the wind

    *rob*

  • Think all the concerts in the park ended at “sundown” usually before 8pm – not 10pm

    Also traditionally they are free on Sundays

    One thing thats changing is now a lot of people from far away come to them, in the beginning it was filled with a lot of people from Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Bushwick. The people from far away obviously don’t care about picking up trash etc.

    Hopefully a few complainers don’t cause the whole concert series to be shut down

    If there is a bar that is going all night that is a separate issue imo. The concerts should stay its nice to just check it out for free on a nice day

  • please let me add that these types of concerts should not be played in williamsburg.. right fown the block from residential streets.. these are dirty hipsters that have no shame and respect for peoples homes. if they acted more like human beings it would be different.. why do i have to live with dirt bags hanging on my stoop drinking pissing smoking all that dirty shit… then wen i chase them away they get all scared… when its time to throw down thy run to the police like lil bitchess..
    stop these concerts nd let willy b the way it used to be.. the days where i can pafk my car in front of my house with out a problem..
    nd noo im not a crab ass.. i just know how and where to do my thing..
    residential block to.throw concerts is not the place