Talk of the Town
We’ll be back to business-as-usual on Monday but in the meantime we’ll leave you with this week’s New Yorker piece about our one-year anniversary party last fall. One recent Saturday afternoon, some three hundred and sixty years after Dutch settler chartered the town of Breuckelen representatives of a more recent migration were milling around the…
We’ll be back to business-as-usual on Monday but in the meantime we’ll leave you with this week’s New Yorker piece about our one-year anniversary party last fall.
One recent Saturday afternoon, some three hundred and sixty years after Dutch settler chartered the town of Breuckelen representatives of a more recent migration were milling around the back patio of one of the borough’s newer bars. They had come to toast the first birthday of Brownstoner, a blog professing an unhealthy obsession wit historic Brooklyn brownstones and th neighborhoods and lifestyles they define. The party was in Red Hook, Brooklyn’s defunct dock district, so there were no brownstones in sight, but the bar’s name (Pioneer Bar-B-Q and the up-and-coming character of th neighborhood (Ikea and Fairway due to arrive soon) fit the spirit of the occasion.
Brownstoner is a virtual back fence for Brooklyn real-estate watchers. In frequent postings, its users vet listings, trade tips on brokers and neighborhoods, and gossip about who saw what at which open house. That place is a ‘five minute walk to Prospect Park’ only if you’re a giraffe, Linusvanpelt wrote recently. Why is the Chester Court listing so relatively affordable? Clinton hillbilly said. Was someone murdered there or something?
Housing Department: Emigres [New Yorker]
The blog’s founder, who works on Wall Street and who last year bought a fixer-upper in Clinton Hill, is known to readers as Brownstoner; his wife is Mrs. Brownstoner, or Mrs. B. Like Mr. and Mrs. B., most of the guests at the party were in their thirties; many wore expensive jeans and sneakers, and a disproportionate number of them had on eyeglasses with square frames. They travelled in pairs, towing a stroller and a child or two, and lived in neighborhoods that they described in optimistic tones as improving, including not only Clinton Hill but also Windsor Terrace, Bedford-Stuyvesant, and Crown Heights.
The group had its own vernacular, sprinkled with terms like pocket door, parquet, gut reno, Farrow & Ball (a brand of English paint with extra pigment), and the verb to rehab (as in, I bought a single-family house from a Louisiana minister. There were illegal tenants, one of whom died in contract. And then I rehabbed it). Some expressed feelings of connection to a bygone era. One woman on her move to Clinton Hill: I was reading a lot of Edith Wharton last summer, and it seemed so appropriate.
As Beck played over the loudspeakers and children tossed horseshoes, adults drank bottles of Stella Artois, gnawed on ribs, and compared notes about their paths to the outer boroughs. It was my dream, when I first found Brooklyn, to own a brownstone, one transplant from Manhattan to Crown Heights by way of Park Slope said. I didn’t think that Brooklyn was cool enough at first, an industrial designer said. But it’s, like, the cool borough right now. We really wanted to be in Clinton Hill, said his wife, a writer, describing their house hunt. Unfortunately, we were two years too late to really find a beater.
There was much talk about the shoddy upkeep and, some said, bad taste that had been visited on the brownstones during the twentieth century. That’s one nice thing about neighborhoods like Clinton Hill, where we live, Brownstoner said. No one ever had any money. His wife jumped in. It was, you know, basically a crack house, and it was covered in weird linoleum and industrial carpeting, she said. But when you peeled it back you got this incredible parquet. And then there were the mantels.
An exchange between Brownstoner and the buyer of a house in Windsor Terrace went like this:
W.T.: It’s a three-story.
Mr. B.: With a rounded front?
W.T.: It’s like a pointed bay.
Mr. B.: Uh-huh.
W.T.: And it was totally seventies Italian, you know—plastic-wood panelling everywhere and orange carpet and dropped ceilings.
Mr. B.: Wow.
Bystander: I never understood the dropped ceiling.
Mrs. B.: I know! What is it?
W.T.: The modern look, I guess. Or maybe for saving on heating?
Discussion of money matters proved only slightly more circumspect in person than online. Crown Heights and Bed-Stuy are seven, eight, and nine-hundred thousand dollars, the Crown Heights buyer said. Clinton Hill would be 1.5. And Park Slope would be 1.8. There was also talk about how rising prices affected the neighborhoods’ demographics. The diversity of the architecture and the people who live in Clinton Hill is peerless, Nathaniel Frank, an academic, said. I saw a study which said that, counter-intuitively, gentrification doesn’t necessarily lead to displacement. People make ends meet somehow; they double up, if they want to stay. They appreciate the neighborhood as different.
Among the guests at the Pioneer, only Lee Coker-Holmes (Nativegal, on the blog) said that she was Brooklyn-born and bred. She expressed mild bemusement at some of the interlopers, and at the labels they had affixed to various neighborhoods. I would say I grew up in Fort Greene, she said. But people on Brownstoner are, like, no, that’s Bed-Stuy. So I’m, like, O.K., fine. I can’t argue about that, because when I lived there they were both ghettos.
— Kate Julian
To hell with all of you gentrifyin’, square glass wearin’, antique collectin’, baby bearin’, inside tradin’, brie eatin’, brownstone buyin’, nanny hirin’, stroller pushin’, money hoardin’ sons of bitches!!
Haha – this is all really too much. The majority of you people sound like such asses, I mean the rationalizing is reaching truly absurd levels. Obviously the problem goes way beyond real estate, it’s the endemic inequality of our society – just don’t act like you’re doing these neighborhoods a “favor.”
And it makes me so happy that the square glasses thing has been uttered in a magazine with such a huge circulation. Prediction: square glasses go out of vogue post haste. No one’s more susceptible to this kind of derision than hyper-self aware, desperately hip moneyed urban dwellers.
to anon at 2.17, I am the anon from 1.01, I do live in clinton hill, and prior to that Fort Greene. Also, I do recognize that people are being forced to move do to rising property values and rents, and yes, Fort Greene has definitely become whiter, though it is still a racially mixed neighborhood – which is a good thing. What you are seeing is a rise in the average socioeconomic level of the residents, due to gentrification. It just happens that not all of the new, relatively wealthy, gentrifiers are white – which I think is good.
Here, here. I couldn’t agree more. The white folks moving into (e.g.) Ft. Greene are not the enemy. They aren’t the ones who perpetrated the social injustices that contributed to the decay of Brooklyn in the days of ‘redlining’. However, these white folk (and I include myself in this group) are benefiting from those injustices and we should at least have the balls to be up front about this fact. I think we also assume some responsibility to create more affordable housing in our neighborhoods, even if we suffer some negative economic consequences in doing so. But that’s another story.
No one is calling anyone racist. However, the fact that people get SO irate when gentrification is discussesd means that some buttons are being pushed.
No, middle-class white people moving in are not the enemy, but they should realize and admit that they are displacing people. The “real” enemy is actually many things, not least the fact that public education in poorer black neighborhoods basically sucks.
And yes, there is no question that Fort Greene has become significantly “whiter” in recent years. As I said, my husband (a white man) worked there and commented on the changes, and I’m absolutely sure there is statistical evidence.
Denying something doesn’t change the truth of the matter. Maybe people should wonder why they get so defensive about this topic.
The only thing this tells me is that you live in neither Ft. Greene nor Clinton Hill.
I’d bet my brownstone that 99% of the white owners of apartments and brownstones in Ft. Greene and Clinton Hill are not overt racists. However, as evidenced from comments from both sides of this discussion, everyone has their own preconceived notions (i.e. prejudices) about the neighborhoods and their residents. That being said, as a newer owner myself, I like the diversity of the community. Anyone who cares for the community (i.e. takes care of it, picks up trash, looks after their house/apartment – whether owned or rented) is good in my book. For those who do not, who are rude, inconsiderate, overtly racist (in either “direction”), litter, deal drugs or vandalize – I have no problem with them being priced out or “displaced” by gentrification. I do not think that is controversial and would be something all would welcome. Unfortunately, the baby often goes out with the bathwater in these situations.
Absolutely renters get displaced when neighborhood are gentrified. Especially in brownstone neigborhoods where many of the buildings only have a few apartments, are often owner occupied, and may be on short leases and/or not subject to rent stabilization. Then you basically luck out if your landlord is a decent sort who isn’t out to make the most money possible. I lived through the gentrification of Hoboken in the early 80s and boy was that ugly. They used to burn people out of buildings right and left.
I don’t think we should discourage discussion of race here. There are obviously plenty of people who think it’s relevant to the history and development of Brooklyn and, when you think about it, how could it NOT be relevant? And who, in your opinion, is the “real” enemy? The discussions of racism here are focusing on institutionalized racism, and it seems to me that one way to affect racist institutions is by discussing them in a wide variety of forums, including this one. I’d actually like to thank some of the people who posted in this thread. I learned a few things, not only from the “liberal” posts but also from the “reactions” they produced.