CG'ers Don't Want No Stinkin' Bars
Rumors are swirling that Al’s Grocery, a longtime fixture a the corner of 3rd Street and Hoyt, is about to be replaced by a jazz bar. “Ours is a quiet residential block with a lot of young families recently moved in and far removed from the commercial bustle of Smith Street,” writes one concerned neighbor….
Rumors are swirling that Al’s Grocery, a longtime fixture a the corner of 3rd Street and Hoyt, is about to be replaced by a jazz bar. “Ours is a quiet residential block with a lot of young families recently moved in and far removed from the commercial bustle of Smith Street,” writes one concerned neighbor. “We’re not looking forward drunks sitting on our stoops or pissing in our already-truncated front yards.” Word is that the beer and wine license is a non-issue because it transfers with the lease. Anyone have more deets? GMAP
it’s so ridiculous (& obnoxiously arrogant) to assume that all of those “pro-bar” as you reductively put it–are renters. I own a house as do many of my friends and aquaintances and can tell you how absurd that is. There are a lot of “home owners” interested in a life.
Anon 1:18–all I’m saying is that peace and quiet are relative to the enviornment you choose. There’s a guy who calls in complaints about backyard kids parties on weekend afternoons! And okay LI is far but there are “suburban” streets in Staten Island–I mean come on–how many people in this area truly have no other options?
And as for “nail salons, wig shops and fast food franchises” 12:57–goog grief–that’s just not what’s happening here!
I agree with 1:50–it’s cheap ugly modern buildings that destroy the character of the place. These places often add vitality, charm and jobs. And I think The Magic Touch actually did have live music…
the Magic Touch has got the coolest neon sign in South Brooklyn!
by the way, aren’t all jazz musicians heroin addicts?
The Magic Touch? You mean the retro-cool sign kitty-corner from Al’s? From what I understand, that place was more Italian restaurant than cocktail lounge and went out of business in the ’60s. I imagine a retro-cool sign makes a much better neighbor than a bar does: at least it doesn’t stand outside smoking and talking loudly at 3am while your kids are trying to sleep.
1:50–you are wrong…I am an owner in the neighborhood in favor of locally-owned small businesses–including bars. For those of you worried about the scary beatniks who might frequent a jazz joint, it’s not as if the characters who hung out at Al’s Deli were the most savory in town. And one more point–the street has a history of nightlife…doesn’t anyone remember The Magic Touch Cocktail Lounge?
Don’t care what kind of stores or bars or drug-dealing or noise or whatever. Just no high-rises or Fedder’s buildings or modern bldgs because then the nabe goes downhill.
Sounds to me like those of you who are pro-bar are renters while those of you who are anti-bar are owners.
And I disagree that we have to give that up to live in NYC. Many of us don’t have a choice in terms of the suburbs. So telling us to commute is worthless. Aer you saying that the rowdy, puking people who annoy the people around SMith St. have to be accepted as part of city living? I don’t think so. I don’t think it should be.
By Basic human needs I meant peace and quiet.