CG'ers Don't Want No Stinkin' Bars
Rumors are swirling that Al’s Grocery, a longtime fixture a the corner of 3rd Street and Hoyt, is about to be replaced by a jazz bar. “Ours is a quiet residential block with a lot of young families recently moved in and far removed from the commercial bustle of Smith Street,” writes one concerned neighbor….

Rumors are swirling that Al’s Grocery, a longtime fixture a the corner of 3rd Street and Hoyt, is about to be replaced by a jazz bar. “Ours is a quiet residential block with a lot of young families recently moved in and far removed from the commercial bustle of Smith Street,” writes one concerned neighbor. “We’re not looking forward drunks sitting on our stoops or pissing in our already-truncated front yards.” Word is that the beer and wine license is a non-issue because it transfers with the lease. Anyone have more deets? GMAP
I think in a rural atmosphere is more do what you want attitude and not a problem disturbing others. In a big crowded city one needs to be much more respectful and concerned of others around them, whether its personal behavior or land use/zoning.
Next thing you know we will hear how jazz music will lead to race mixing, best to keep it out to protect the young families in the neighborhood.
These people need to get a life. Go listen to some jazz and chill out.
I lived on Vanderbilt between DeKalb and Lafayette for many years. The bars on Dekalb (2 Steps and Alibi) had very little regard for neighbors. Loud parties with DJ’s and very loud patrons in the backyards and on back decks would keep the neighbors awake sometimes until 6 AM — even on weekdays. My closed windows sometimes vibrated from the noise. It may have changed now, maybe the police give a damn about disturbing the peace, but this is a very legit concern.
Since this has been a quiet residential block until now, I would suggest that it is those who want to change the stats quo who should stay out and keep their bars out of residential neighborhoods.
I hope it opens too. A jazz bar would be a nice thing to have. As for drunk people pissing in yards, I doubt the kind of audience a jazz bar would attract would be THAT bad.
Jazz bars and cabarets are not usually the kind of places that you find puking, pissing drunks frequenting. The above posters are right – save the fight for when there are actual problems, give the place a chance.
deets…jazz and cabaret are coming to hoyt and 3rd. its locked in stone with the backing of many big wigs in the city
I second that. Some people seem to want to live a rural Vermont lifestyle right here in the largest borough of the largest city on the continent.If the goal is peace and quieet and freedom from commercial hubbub, might I suggest leaving the CITY? You just can’t have it both ways.
You people need to get lives. I hope the BAR opens.