Outlook 2007: Longs and Shorts
Note: We’re moving this post up from yesterday to encourage more input.Welcome to the third annual installment of our market prognostications. Last year, we picked Prospect Heights and Carroll Gardens to outperform and Williamsburg to slump, which in retrospect look like pretty good calls. As for next year, our eyes will be on the areas…
Note: We’re moving this post up from yesterday to encourage more input.Welcome to the third annual installment of our market prognostications. Last year, we picked Prospect Heights and Carroll Gardens to outperform and Williamsburg to slump, which in retrospect look like pretty good calls. As for next year, our eyes will be on the areas bordering Prospect Park that have the location and housing stock on their sides but have yet to attract widespread interest from the gentrifying crowd. We’d also be front-running the newly Brooklyn-focused Landmarks Preservation Commission by looking in spots like the soon-to-be-designated Crown Heights North. On the downside, it’s hard to see how increasing supply of run-of-the-mill condos coming on line in Williamsburg won’t continue to put downward pressure on prices. We’re not as wary about the effect of Atlantic Yards on surrounding real estate as some and continue to think that Prospect Heights has a lot to offer. As has been mentioned before, quality brownstones should continue to find buyers while those in more marginal neighborhoods and lacking architectural detail will likely have a tough time. Looking back on last year’s post, we can be thankful that we got our wish of a gourmet market (sorta) in the form of Choice. Now if we could just get a friggin’ cheese shop we’d be really psyched.
Market Predictions for 2006 [Brownstoner]
2:27 writes: “the most that’s being claimed is that there are enough rude mothers in Park Slope to explain the occurrence of these incidents”
Well, one more time for you as well.
There are MORE mothers in Park Slope, so you will encounter more RUDE ones than in other neighborhoods. So what is the point? If you want to avoid encounters with rude mothers, just stay away from neighborhoods with lots of mothers in general. Otherwise, I promise you, you will meet rude mothers, be it in Inwood, Bed Stuy, or Montclair, NJ. Park Slope mothers aren’t any more rude than mothers in other neighborhoods.
I don’t complain about rude Williamsburg hipsters, but maybe I should start. Clearly, if you go to Williamsburg, you are more likely to have a rude encounter with a hipster than on the upper east side of Manhattan. But are “Williamsburg hipsters” more rude than “Bed Stuy hipsters” or “East Village hipsters”? No, so what is the point of always bashing the Williamsburg ones?
I’m not a troll, and have only posted once before at 2:11. I don’t even live in Park Slope. I just don’t understand the vitriol when it comes to people who live there. Move on already.
Kindly explain to me how this is stereotyping, no matter what group is under discussion:
No one is inferring from these experiences that all mothers are bad.
No one is inferring from these experiences that all Park Slope mothers are bad.
No one is inferring from these experiences that most Park Slope mothers are bad.
The most that’s being claimed is that there are enough rude mothers in Park Slope to explain the empirical data
Replace PS Moms with any other group, say black Americans, and there would be no debate as to whether stereotyping and generalizations were being made or implied.
This is directed to 2:11PM.
Are you going to keep saying the same thing over and over, even though no one in this thread actually holds the position you’re arguing against?
Just curious.
I’m a new PS mom (new to PS and new to momhood). I’m not rude. Sometimes, though, my kid is. He has a tendency to stare at people unsmilingly, not wish them a Happy New Year, and refuse to move his stroller over when people are trying to get to get to the soup cans on the shelf behind him. But the people who look him in the face and realize he’s a human being instead of a stroller posing as a bulldozer tend to smile at him. Cause he’s cute, and he’s just a baby. Most of them ignore me completely, which is great, cause I got pretty sick of people staring at me when I was pregnant.
But, given the sheer volume of comments on this thread, I guess I’m wrong: people are still watching me like a hawk, I’m still under scrutiny. Doesn’t make me feel great. Oh well.
Pregnancy and momhood are loaded concepts, these days. Lots of energy vested in the debate over what women should be like, how they should reproduce, what their bodies should look like while they’re reproducing, what they should eat, etc, etc. Just ask any pregnant woman in a bar: people pay a LOT of attention to whether the drink in front of you is alcoholic or not.
It’s a lot of pressure, which is why people on all sides get a bit touchy. Cause we’re talking about our future as a society, right? So everyone feels they have a right to give their input.
So thanks for all the attention, folks, I’m flattered. I guess.
2:27 you have the patience of a saint. This person is obviously a troll. You’ve made your position clear how many times…and yet s/he still refuses to to acknowledge it? The idea has to be to just stir up emotions for the hell of it. Yawn
yeah! 2:11 is right on.
as an aside, there’s a brilliant column in the new yorker this week by adam gopnik about the “soul” of new york. the idea of losing a sense of community and diversity (and gaining mall stores, drive-through banks, and national pharmacy chains) is so relevant to a lot of this thread. one way to start is by reaching out to people with kindness – and getting out of the way of the crazies and the jerks, in whatever form they present themselves. this is new york, after all. threats, physical and otherwise, are abundant and varied.
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/070108ta_talk_gopnik
“What is wrong with all you PS mom bashers is that you don’t just tell a story, you offer that as justification for making sweeping generalizations…”
One more time…
No one is inferring from these experiences that all mothers are bad.
No one is inferring from these experiences that all Park Slope mothers are bad.
No one is inferring from these experiences that most Park Slope mothers are bad.
The most that’s being claimed is that there are enough rude mothers in Park Slope to explain the occurrence of these incidents.
Next…
I am positive lots of people can come up with an anecdote about a rude Park Slope mom. I live in Carroll Gardens, and I can come up with an anecdote about a rude Carroll Gardens mom. Big deal.
What is wrong with all you PS mom bashers is that you don’t just tell a story, you offer that as justification for making sweeping generalizations that people who live in Park Slope have the burden of having to contend with those rude Park Slope moms. Well, guess what — in any neighborhood you live in, you will have to contend with rude moms. You also have to contend with rude yuppies, single people, white people, people of color, and every other group.
Perhaps there are more moms in general in park slope, so if you don’t like moms, you’ll have to deal with more of them, and of course, will have more interaction and your chances of meeting a rude one are higher.
But if you go to a neighborhood with a high percentage of any group, be it white, asian, african-american, etc., you are likely to have more frequent encounters with a rude person from that particular ethnic group. That’s just because there are more chances to have that encounter because the population in that neighborhood is larger.
It doesn’t justify making stereotype sweeping judgements.
OK?