houseNote: We’re moving this post up from yesterday to encourage more input.Welcome to the third annual installment of our market prognostications. Last year, we picked Prospect Heights and Carroll Gardens to outperform and Williamsburg to slump, which in retrospect look like pretty good calls. As for next year, our eyes will be on the areas bordering Prospect Park that have the location and housing stock on their sides but have yet to attract widespread interest from the gentrifying crowd. We’d also be front-running the newly Brooklyn-focused Landmarks Preservation Commission by looking in spots like the soon-to-be-designated Crown Heights North. On the downside, it’s hard to see how increasing supply of run-of-the-mill condos coming on line in Williamsburg won’t continue to put downward pressure on prices. We’re not as wary about the effect of Atlantic Yards on surrounding real estate as some and continue to think that Prospect Heights has a lot to offer. As has been mentioned before, quality brownstones should continue to find buyers while those in more marginal neighborhoods and lacking architectural detail will likely have a tough time. Looking back on last year’s post, we can be thankful that we got our wish of a gourmet market (sorta) in the form of Choice. Now if we could just get a friggin’ cheese shop we’d be really psyched.
Market Predictions for 2006 [Brownstoner]


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  1. The only empirical data we were talking about were observations made of people’s behavior. At any rate, that’s all I remember.

    I never, ever said that there is empirical evidence that justifies “bashing” one nabe’s hipsters rather than anothers. YOU said (and I quote) “are “Williamsburg hipsters” more rude than “Bed Stuy hipsters” or “East Village hipsters”? No”. I simply asked you to support this claim. How do you know that one group of hipsters isn’t more rude than another? It’s your claim, not mine. I have no clue whether one is ruder than another.

    “I’m just wondering why you need to keep harping particularly on Park Slope mothers, who are IN GENERAL no worse than any other neighborhood’s mothers.”

    I was talking about Park Slope mothers because Park Slope is the only neighborhood in which I regularly have nasty encounters with mothers. That is all. I’m sure there are plenty of rude mothers in other nabes, and I’m sure there are plenty of wonderful moms in all nabes. Perhaps if I walk down a different street in Carroll Gardens, I’ll have lots of nasty encounters with moms…more even than in Park Slope. I have no clue. All I’m trying to do is talk about my own friggin’ experience, if only the thought police will allow that.

    Also, I’d like to know how you justify claiming that “Park Slope mothers…are IN GENERAL no worse than any other neighborhood’s mothers.” Are you a sociologist who just got through working under a grant from the NSF? What kinds of studies back up this claim? Or are you just stereotyping?

  2. 3:13 what “empirical data” are you referring to?

    You really don’t get it, perhaps on purpose. I’m not making generalizations about Williamsburg versus Bed Stuy hipsters, I’m making fun of your comment that there’s “empirical evidence” that justifies bashing one neighborhood’s hipsters over another.

    For the record, I understand you aren’t saying ALL Park Slope mothers are rude or even that MOST are, or that all mothers in general are bad. I’m just wondering why you need to keep harping particularly on Park Slope mothers, who are IN GENERAL no worse than any other neighborhood’s mothers. Or do you have some “empirical evidence” as you say, to prove otherwise.

  3. I’m not 2.11, I just read this silly thread and was struck by the sheer idiocy of it, including the pretensions of intelligent debate by people who don’t even seem to understand the meaning of the vocabularly they are using.

  4. You don’t have to “explain an empirical fact”, it stands on its own. We’ve got some people posting here who clearly are putting on airs of intelligence for the sake of arguing. Using the word “inferring” incorrectly, etc.

  5. “I promise you, you will meet rude mothers, be it in Inwood, Bed Stuy, or Montclair, NJ.”

    Once again, please, please, please identify even a single post in the above thread in which someone denies that there are rude mothers in nabes other than PS. I guarantee you you will be unable to do it.

    “Park Slope mothers aren’t any more rude than mothers in other neighborhoods.”

    Once again, no one claimed that they’re ruder in PS than in other nabes. The claim is only that there are ENOUGH rude ones there to explain the empirical facts. Period. Full stop.

    “I don’t complain about rude Williamsburg hipsters, but maybe I should start. Clearly, if you go to Williamsburg, you are more likely to have a rude encounter with a hipster than on the upper east side of Manhattan. But are “Williamsburg hipsters” more rude than “Bed Stuy hipsters” or “East Village hipsters”? No

    Where the hell do you get off saying “No”? That’s a generalization! What’s your support for it? C’mon…it’s put up or shut up time now… Have you examined each hipster in every single one of these nabes? If not, then what’s your evidence for this generalization? If you don’t have any evidence at all, you’re just stereotyping.

  6. People have clearly “inferred” that you are “implying” (not “inferring”) that most PS Moms are rude.

    It is ok to say because it is ok to make generalizations about well to do (presumably) white women. If this was about a class of people who were not well to do, everyone would say your posts imply stereotypes or were code of something more sinister.

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