Open House Picks: Houses
Carroll Gardens 98 3rd Place Brown Harris Stevens Sunday 2:30-4:30 $2,450,000 GMAP P*Shark Park Slope 360A 5th Street Warren Lewis Sunday 2:30-4:30 $1,875,000 GMAP P*Shark Bedford Stuyvesant 111 Clifton Place Corcoran Sunday 12-1 $1,395,000 GMAP P*Shark Kensington 301 Caton Avenue Brooklyn Properties Sunday 1-3 $889,000 GMAP P*Shark Tune in tomorrow morning for Open House Picks:…
Carroll Gardens
98 3rd Place
Brown Harris Stevens
Sunday 2:30-4:30
$2,450,000
GMAP P*Shark
Park Slope
360A 5th Street
Warren Lewis
Sunday 2:30-4:30
$1,875,000
GMAP P*Shark
Bedford Stuyvesant
111 Clifton Place
Corcoran
Sunday 12-1
$1,395,000
GMAP P*Shark
Kensington
301 Caton Avenue
Brooklyn Properties
Sunday 1-3
$889,000
GMAP P*Shark
Tune in tomorrow morning for Open House Picks: Apartments
Folks, leaving aside the debate about the relative grooviness/snottiness of Park Slope as a neighborhood, it’s clear to anyone on the buy side that the market is turning. That’s not to say that a great place that’s priced right will sit for a long time – it won’t – but those are far and few between. As nice as Park Slope is (and I am a fan), there’s a limit to the number of wealthy families who want to live there. And at prices like these, you are not going to see middle class families buying. No way, no how. Likewise for Carroll Gardens. If I had more than $2 mill to spend on a house, would I really want to spend it on that house in Carroll Gardens? Hmm. Prices like these are not sustainable at all and I am very confident we’re going to see some significant declines come January (and are seeing some already in the more extreme cases).
2:37–discussion, trash-talk or otherwise, of a neighborhood is relevant to this board. Especially when considering that the PS “quality-of-life” is what makes it one of the most expensive neighborhoods. So people have differing opinions on what that quality-of-life is or isn’t. It’s not such a big deal.
Sorry, I did see the PS house and it is small no matter how you slice it – it does have a great basement but it’s not worth 200-300K (which is about the premium they are adding to this house) when that kind of work only takes 20-30K to do yourself. I also think all this trashing of PS is a bit silly and at the very least should be brought elsewhere, not hogging this list. I actually own near this listing, so have a vested interest in having property values rise in PS — but in spite of that, I think it hurts the neighborhood to put a house like this at such a price – what does that say about the kind of people who can move here? This house is overpriced. I tend to think that those who say otherwise are either brokers or other owners trying to pump up their own property values. Brownstoner is such a phenomenon that brokers/owners are no fools – they need to seed the boards to stoke the price increases.
Getting back to the Open Houses, that 3rd Place listing is ridiculous. 2.4 million for a space that needs to be totally refigured if you want more than 2 bedrooms and the living space is on the ground floor and not the parlor. I think the going rate in Carroll Gardens might be 2.4 million (maybe) for a perfectly renovated triplex plus a ground floor rental, but not for this. Renta income may defray $700,000 in mortgage, so you are paying 1.7 million for a duplex. Way overpriced.
There is no news.
The only real bit of news is that people like to pick on Park Slope, even though, as you say it really is not a lot different than many other upper middle class neighborhoods around the country. Not just in NYC.
The difference is that Park Slope has a lot more benefits than it does negatives. Obviously.
It is not one of the most expensive neighborhoods because of coincidence.
It’s a little thing called supply and demand. More people want to move to Park Slope than other neighborhoods in Brooklyn. That’s a fact. It’s the reason why someone can ask 1.9 million dollars for the home listed above and probably get close to it.
Everyone wanting to say nasty things about it, simply don’t understand that while you might not like it, lots of other people do. Otherwise it would be inexpensive.
Seems so simple, right? It’s not when you have a huge chip on your shoulder as evidenced by a handful of posters on this thread.
If you know anything about human behavior, you can hear the envy and jealousy in some of these posts like it’s smacking you in the face. I appreciate the ones who at least admit it.
Have to laugh at the 11:14am poster who criticizes all the “snooty Park Slope mommies” who punish another poster’s daughter for not being wealthy enough but doesn’t see the irony in proclaiming she prefers private school to (any) public school. I guess those down to earth private school moms will be so much less snooty than the stuck-up public school moms in park slope.
I’m not a park slope mom, but I am a mom in another brownstone neighborhood, and whether or not your kid gets playdates with other kids at a preschool age has nothing to do with your income. (In fact, most families with nannies are far richer than those with stay at home moms). Kids at age 2 and 3 don’t make their own playdates, the moms hang out and the kids play. And moms usually hang out with other moms, and not nannies, just like nannies usually make playdates with other nannies, and not moms. I worked part time and on my days home I often had playdates with nannies whom my kid’s part-time nanny had made friends with and that was fine, but the reality is, that I probably would not have made friends with the nannies at preschool on my own. When moms/caregivers stay at the playdates, it’s hard to call up someone and ask if your babysitter and kid can come over to their house to play. Maybe that makes the moms stuck-up because they should be socializing with the nannies just like they hang out with other moms, but the reality is that working moms aren’t hanging out with the nannies any more than the stay at home moms are, so both are equally snobbish, I guess.
1:42–sorry, but that describes either the present and/or future state of most every neighborhood in NYC. Actually, all the negative posts about Park Slope could apply to most upper-middle-class/wealthy Manhattan or Brooklyn nabes. What’s the news here?
becasue there is no real community anymore, just single people trying to make a buck and fmailies trying to make a buck. old people are disregarded and thought more of real estate opportunities (when they expire) or as liabilities.
what makes a neighborhood great is different kinds of people, nannies, sahm, non sahm, singles, old people who don’;t truck off to work everyday leaving the neighborhood with built in watchdogs, kids, people who sit out front on their porches or stoops, knowing the deli owner, knowing the mailman. prices do not make or break the character of a neighborhood, people do and their attitudes.
Judging from some of the sick “mother” posts on here, NO WONDER the children today are growing up so fucked up.