House of the Day: 122 Bond Street
This three-story brick house at 122 Bond Street just hit the market at the relatively accessible (for the nabe) price of $1,625,000. The single-family house also recently underwent a major renovation, which by and large looks nicely done. So what do you think of that price? We could see it going for pretty close to…
This three-story brick house at 122 Bond Street just hit the market at the relatively accessible (for the nabe) price of $1,625,000. The single-family house also recently underwent a major renovation, which by and large looks nicely done. So what do you think of that price? We could see it going for pretty close to that.
122 Bond Street [Brooklyn Hearth] GMAP P*Shark
The PJs are grimy man – i don’t really mind but if people are droppin a milli on a house I can understand why they don’t want to be near that.
you can google as much crap as you want – PJs = grimy
Just remembered…I forgot to factor in No Snitching. Probably explains the lower REPORTED crime rate.
http://nyc.everyblock.com/crime/locations/neighborhoods/dumbo-vinegar-hill-downtown/
Are the Gowanus Houses drug lords more profitable? Or do they have a more affluent clientele?
Not sure how else to explain Boerum Hill (Precinct 76) has a consistently lower reported crime rate virtually every week of the past year when compared to surrounding area nabes (Brooklyn Heights, Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill, DUMBO, Park Slope and Prospect Heights).
Hey, wait a second…NONE of those neighborhoods have public housing. Huh.
Yet rarely – IF EVER – does crime rate get introduced as a discussion point for a CotD or HotD thread in those nabes. But if it is Boerum Hill, every single time somebody mentions public housing. Never mind that many parts or Cobble Hill or Carroll Gardens are as close or close to said buildings, the NYCHA address is in Boerum.
Well, I don’t want to draw any dismissive conclusions. Y’all figure it out (or wait for Pigeon to enlighten us). I’m just pointing out what should be fairly common knowledge given how easily it is to access crime stats in NYC. Boerum Hill has a lower crime rate – so why does it always gets brought up under the guise of ‘near public housing’?
I wonder what the time frame is for the aforementioned drug dealing? FWIW, there was a double homicide 20 feet from my door 16 years ago. It arose from a drug dispute that took place in the abandoned house next door. Today both houses have undergone gut renovations, and are probably as unrecognizable inside as daily life outside once was.
So what does a 1994 homicide or a 1995 movie have to do with today? Not much…which is kind of the whole point of bringing either up.
I applaud the attempt to cast project-dwellers as multi-dimensional, though I’m not sure that “I think this house is overpriced because there is a nearby concentration of poor mostly minority people who have rich inner lives and are often joyful” takes much of the sting off it. 😉
That being said, there are two points that might be made which do not seem to have racist undertones-
1) Saying that one believes the house has less value because it’s in a relatively high-crime area (a as-yet hypothetical position which should be backed up with statistics) or
2) Saying that one believes the house will sell for a lower price because other people who would otherwise pay this price will be scared off by the relative location of the projects, irrespective of whether or not those projects actually have any significant impact on crime stats.
The first point has an actual reason behind its drop in price (besides simply scary poor minority folks,) and the second is noting that a sector of the market for this house is irrationally afraid of poor minority folks, which would therefore reduce demand and lower the price, irrespective of whether you believe their position is justified or their characterization of people living in projects is accurate.
(As for myself, I don’t like living near the projects not only because of my hard-to-conquer ingrained racism, but because I think they’re really ugly buildings.)
“I haven’t seen Clockers.
Is it set in the Gowanus Houses?
Posted by: Pigeon at March 15, 2010 5:48 PM
yeah – set in the gowanus houses in the 90s – good flick.
Cute house. Insanely overpriced on a $/sf basis, but cute. If you can make it past the unfortunate stooplessness, that is.
Dirty Hipster,
I haven’t seen Clockers.
Is it set in the Gowanus Houses?
I don’t understand how the schopenhauer quote relates, can you explain?
Posted by: bfarwell at March 15, 2010 4:49 PM
I related the quote — “Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world” — to our discussion to attempt to illustrate that what people see is influenced by their own perspectives.
The Gowanus Houses, like most neighborhoods, are complex. To say that those who note the plight of the Gowanus Houses see the Gowanus Houses as simply being a place where “black people” live, or to say that “the project talk is stupid”… these things are dismissive of the plights and joys of those who live in the Gowanus Houses, dismissive of the issues created in the areas surrounding the Gowanus Houses, and dismissive of the intelligence and intentions of the people who blog on this site. Such a dismissive view projects a narrow field of vision onto the Gowanus Houses, onto Boerum Hill, and onto Brooklyn.
” I’ve seen in the Boroughs in years. Gowanus is the only one where I’ve seen the open drug trade; maybe things have changed now that NYCHA has become very tough about evictions…”
It’s always been that way – haven’t you guys ever seen the Spike Lee movie “Clockers” ??