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When did average-sized houses in Carroll Gardens start being worth over $3 million? Whenever it was, we didn’t get the memo. Last month, it was 44 1st Place, a generally attractive but inconsistent four-story house asking $3,842,500. (One reader wrote us a particularly nasty email about our stance on that post.) Now it’s 78 3rd Place, a 3,100-square-foot, three-story brick that, while 23-feet-wide and full of charm, doesn’t feel like it’s worth quite $3,495,000. Are we just out of touch with the Carroll Gardens market or sellers overreaching?
78 3rd Place [Corcoran] GMAP P*Shark


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  1. Well I have commuted on the f to midtown for 8 years now and rarely have a problem. On the days when there are problems, of course it sucks, but the vast vast majority of time it runs fine. I moved to CG from williamsburg and after the L the F inspired a lot of passion on my part, let me tell you. First of all, it’s much less crowded. 2nd of all, it takes you to almost every neighborhood in the city with only minor (across platform) transferring.

  2. going from manhattan to north slope via cab, one need only cross the manhattan bridge which becomes flatbush avenue and there you are. right on 5th, 6th, or 7th and done.

    i take a cab regularly from soho to my north slope home.

    $15 with tip.

  3. “too bad williamsburg looks like bombed out beirut circa 1975.”

    The aesthetic is more mid-80’s Beirut–you know, after the bomb-sites were cleared and reconstruction had commenced.

    Still, if you’re wearing sunglasses at night, it’s a beautiful place.

    -happy Williamsburg resident

  4. For me it’s not the subway stops, it’s the long cab ride late at night and the feeling of being landlocked that are unappealing (i know, terrible grammar). However, i much prefer south slope around fifth ave to north slope near the park, so maybe it’s just the “vibe” that puts me off and travel issues have nothing to do with it.

  5. Just a couple of comments:

    Re “Where did all of the cornices go? What happened to all of the exterior detail? Nearly every brownstone in CG has been picked clean of any ornamentation and reduced to a bland, brown box.”

    From personal experience and memory: Anyone who had their facades done during the 1970s-80s most likely had exterior details stripped because the masons at the time didn’t appreciate or know how to restore those details and took the easy way out and just removed them. That happened to my house in CG (by the previous owner), and I do hope to have the resources some day to really “restore” my facade to the way I remember it when growing up there. It is only in the past 10 years or so that more companies have started to pay attention to those details that make brownstones special and are willing to take the time and energy (and needless to say, the $$$$) to do it right.

    As far as distance from CG to midtown, come on now….I work at Park & 52nd and live in CG…you can map it out and it’s barely 7 miles to President St. How much closer do you need to live to midtown? I can be home in 30-45 minutes tops with a little luck and no subway delays (P.S. I avoid the F train like the plague during evening rush hour. Instead I take the Lex Ave line to Borough Hall and have a nice brisk walk the rest of the way.)

  6. 4:04, many NY, even those of us w/ $3M, don’t have and don’t want a car. I know people leaving Williamsburg because the trains there suck. The same is said by many about the F so there goes Cobble Hill/Carroll Gardens. While all may be geographically closer to Manhattan they are further than North Park Slope where you can get the N and take it ONE STOP or Q for two stops.

    I live in N. slope and am looking to leave because I hate the people here. I do have enough money to buy here, I just don’t want to. It’s not jealousy. But, those who think it’s too far from Manhattan need to look on the subway map.

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