House of the Day: 44 Strong Place
Oh, ye brokers of limited transparency, stop the madness! It took all of five minutes to figure out that the address of the house in this Craigslist ad is 44 Strong Place, a four-story, 4,000-square-foot charmer between Kane and Degraw. Here’s what we can’t figure out: Who gives a $2.95 million listing in Cobble Hill…

Oh, ye brokers of limited transparency, stop the madness! It took all of five minutes to figure out that the address of the house in this Craigslist ad is 44 Strong Place, a four-story, 4,000-square-foot charmer between Kane and Degraw. Here’s what we can’t figure out: Who gives a $2.95 million listing in Cobble Hill to a brokerage firm that doesn’t even have a web site? Back to the house. Nice 22-foot-wide brownstone facade. The listing says to “bring your architect,” though, so it’s fair to assume the interior needs some work. It’s a safe bet that some readers have already seen this place so we’re looking forward to getting the real scoop on it. And what’s the story with the broker, Vespa Properties?
44 Strong Place [Craigslist] GMAP P*Shark
Photo by Kate Leonova for Property Shark
The owners of Brooklyn Landmark Properties (previously on Court St at Warren) split up, one is now at Property Scouts on Court between Warren and Baltic, the other at Vespa Propeties.
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You sound like an ignorant and arrogant boor.
Just because you believe it in your drug-addled brain, does not make it so.
And another thing, you do do not shine shoes with shit.
excuse me, but carroll gardens is just as much a ghetto as clinton hill, just a different kind of ghetto- and not a very desirable one to some of us.
Fred, honey, I don’t know what they used to say, but seems to me you’re still living back then, in “used to” land. Welcome to the new brooklyn. Stop sniggering and accept the fact that the uptight snore-zone is no longer the most sought after neighborhood. FG is selling houses in the 3.5s, and clinton hill in the 2.5s. Yeah, scary. They’re younger than you, richer than you, cooler than you, and their kids go to private schools.
In terms of value, if you’re telling me that houses in Clinton Hill (a semi-ghetto) go for 1.5 to 2.5 million, and that houses in Bed Stuy (a ghetto from central casting) go for 1.1 to 1.6 million, then a house in lovely, thouroughly unghetto-ed Strong Place should go for 2.7 to 3 million. This is a block where your children will not be mugged and where irrate locals will not throw cans and bottles at you. That’s got to be worth something.
The rich are parsimonious in many things but not with their homes. They spend like drunken sailors on them.
If you disagree with that, you don’t know shit from Shinola as they used to say in South Brooklyn.
donatella, west, etc you’re out of touch 3MM for a fixer upper is market. Educate yourself before you sound ignorant
well it’s a 4 family that needs a total gut, on most streets in cobble hill that’s worth $1.7 – $2.2 (assuming 20ft plus), but strong place is a beautiful, quiet block so i’d say this place may get closer to $2.5. if theis palce was a fully renovated 1 or 2 fam it’d probably be listed at close to $4 mill. the house on clinton and kane just went for over 3 mill, the house on degraw that looks down strong place is in contract with an ask of $3.5 and i heard a house on clinton that sotheby’s had for $3.7 has an accepted offer. and none of those houses are recent renovations, just nice, move in condition 1 and 2 fams.
the problem is vespa is a small brokerage and are probably selling this house for a very low commision (3% or less). most brokers are such snakes that they won’t even bring their clients to see a house with such a low split. so unless a buyer sees this on their own (brownstoner helps a ton) many potential buyers may never get a chance to see it. even if a buyer sees it and tells their broker, brokers are much more inclined to tell their clients this is a bad deal and steer them towards a house with a better commision.
I think Strong Place is lovely, but is it really the most desirable block in the neighborhood to command such a premium for a “fixer-upper”? It’s a fair walk to the subways and doesn’t have the front gardens you see on blocks of President and Carroll Street (between Smith and Hoyt) and 1st and 2nd Place (between Henry and Court), which are also quiet tree-lined streets. Just wondering what others think.
Whoever went off about how wasteful rich people are, I don’t know which rich people you’re referring to (Paris Hilton? That other offspring, Mini McNally?), but my experience with the wealthy is that they are a shrewd bunch of money-hoarders, they don’t overpay for diddly, and if they do get exactly what they want (marble floors replacing the wood), that marble will be gotten for a historically low price.
That’s how people get wealthy, and that’s how they stay wealthy: smart buying.
This house is stupid asking.