A McCain Outpost in Blue Park Slope
Hey, don’t assume that Park Slope will go blue on November 4th. Four brownstones on 11th Street are adorned with McCain signs (though residents had to travel to New Jersey to get them). Writes the NY Times, “The election district that includes 11th Street has 643 registered voters: 51 of them Republicans, 452 Democrats, 23…
Hey, don’t assume that Park Slope will go blue on November 4th. Four brownstones on 11th Street are adorned with McCain signs (though residents had to travel to New Jersey to get them). Writes the NY Times, “The election district that includes 11th Street has 643 registered voters: 51 of them Republicans, 452 Democrats, 23 in other parties and 117 who did not list a party. That breakdown is echoed by the overwhelmingly Democratic makeup of Assembly District 52, as well as that of Brooklyn, which voted 79 percent for Senator John Kerry in 2004.” The McCain supporters are old school Slopers, writes the Times: residents from long before the Manhattan exodus who say the block was full of Roman Catholics and firemen when they arrived. But donkeys and elephants alike seem to be getting along: old and new, Obama and McCain-lovers. As one Democratic neighbor said about his neighbor’s signs, “To me, that says the person’s possibly open to some dialogue.
An Outpost in the Blue Sea of Brooklyn [NY Times]
Photo by moralesdirect.
CMU – you’re deciding what is “fair” of course.
If the government wants to keep spending the same (or increase it), and therefore needs to collect the same amount of money in taxes, by reducing the amount of taxes group A pays (95% of taxpayers under BOs plan) and increasing the amount of taxes B pays (the reminder) it has effected a wealth redistribution and maintained its spending amount. The 95% now have more money to spend/save than they had before and the 5% has less. Thats wealth redistribution.
The lowest tax rates won’t change. There will be no “take from the rich and give to the poor.”
No, but there might be some take from the rich and pay down the debt! or rebuild the infrastructure or invest in alternative energy or education! Ah yes, and that would be lovely!
City/State taxes are (sort of-AMT and all) deductible – so that offsets some of the increase and we already have the highest marginal tax rate – so whats the difference.
The point is simple – unless someone proposes to 1. drastically reduce the military and end both wars or 2. Drastiaclly cut back on Social Security and Medicare benefits (or age eligibility) – taxes are not going to be lowered and SOMEONE has to pay. – 71% of the budget is Defense, SS/Medicare and interest.
RobertMosesJr, unfortunately you’re right. Elections are, for the most part, choosing the lesser of two evils.
“The only thing we learn from new elections is we learned nothing from the old.” – American Proverb
The lowest tax rates won’t change. There will be no “take from the rich and give to the poor.”
i have to agree with nickelnuts (great great name).
if he taxes businesses hard enough, they WILL look elsewhere to set up shop. same thing happened on a citywide scale in nyc in the 70s. all the businesses left and look what happened. i believe mccain used ireland as an example in one of the debates. businesses are only taxed 11% there, compared to 30+ here. keep raising it and they will go.
that being said.. i still cant vote for mccain, and i’m a republican. the dude just scares me. but obamas economic plan also scares me. this is just a lose/lose situation. obama being the lesser of the losers.
dittoburg, Advocating paying a “fair” tax rate on high earnings is somewhat different than being penalized by not being to earn anything for weeks. I’ll gladly Obama’s income tax rates if I’ll lucky enough to be in that bracket.
fsrq, more specious stuff. If you notice, most people on juries are of a certain demograpic: older, retired, working for big companies etc. It’s idiotic to say that my “right” to a fair trial would be abrogated if people like me don’t serve. Believe me, you don’t want me on your jury.
ditto – no I asked it. Where is the redistribution part of Obama’s tax plan that old Ironballs is referring. I see the increased collection part, just not any additional redistribution, but maybe I missed it.