Prospect Vs. Crown Heights
“A case in point is Joe Chan, president of the Downtown Brooklyn Partnership, who recently moved to Washington and Sterling streets in Brooklyn. I moved to Prospect Heights or Crown Heights, but I’m not really sure which, says Mr. Chan, who adds that he tells friends he lives in Prospect Heights because they are more…
“A case in point is Joe Chan, president of the Downtown Brooklyn Partnership, who recently moved to Washington and Sterling streets in Brooklyn. I moved to Prospect Heights or Crown Heights, but I’m not really sure which, says Mr. Chan, who adds that he tells friends he lives in Prospect Heights because they are more familiar with it. He also notes that on the popular Brooklyn blog Brownstoner, there are pages of people debating which neighborhood Mr. Chan’s address is located in. “Only when the name makes the transition from real estate hype or marketing label to a commonly used phrase to describe a neighborhood does it hold, says Jonathan Miller, chief executive of appraisal firm Miller Samuel Inc. In the case of Mr. Chan’s area, the jury is clearly still out.” — Crain’s
Either way, he’s close to the Islands, Wash Comm, Tom’s and that nifty fountain outside BK Museum.
I have an old booklet, “Home-Buyers guide to New York City Brownstone Neighborhoods” written in 1974 and they claim that the boundaries of Crown Heights are Flatbush, Ralph, Atlantic and Winthrop Ave. They also go on to state that “Home values are rising. Buildings needing extensive renovation coast from $15,00 to $25,00; those needing moderate rehabilitation, $25,000 to $35,000: and the move-right-in, with no rehab needed, $35,000 to $45,000.”
Prospect Heights (again, according to them) is between Flatbush and Washington avenues, Eastern Parkway on the south, Bergen Street on the north. Prices $28,000 to $60,000.
When people are looking at a property to rent or buy on one of the blocks on the disputed borders of Prospect Heights / Crown Heights or Clinton Hill / Bed Stuy (and in the past Fort Greene / Clinton Hill) they will claim it to be part of the less expensive neighborhood. Once the same person lives there, as an renter or an owner, they will claim it to be the more expensive neighborhood.
washington is the border. hasn’t it always been? it’s the bigger streets that typically demarcate neighborhoods. washington, eastern, flatbush, atlantic. easy.
so yeah, it depends which side of washington he lives on. east side is CH, west is PH. isn’t that obvious? just like one side of flatbush is park slope and the other is prospect heights.
classon avenue is the border between crown heights and prospect heights. case closed. and if you’re brave enough, buffalo avenue is the eastern border of crown heights.
Apparently East Williamsburg has annexed Queens.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/abo/1780244184.html
One curious thing I’ve noticed in this silly “debate” about neighborhood boundaries is that no one has ever discussed the EASTERN border of Crown Heights.
Why do you all care so much about where PH becomes CH, but not where CH becomes Ocean Hill?
Can we do PLG vs. Flatbush next, please? Here’s the latest offender: http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&ListingID=1965151&ohDat=6/8/2010 12:00:00 AM;6/10/2010 12:00:00 AM;6/12/2010 12:00:00 AM;6/13/2010 12:00:00 AM;
blowfish, classon is fringe but it IS Clinton Hill