Broken Angel Up For Sale
It’s a sad day in Mudville: Shahn and Arthur are having to give up on their dream of converting the Broken Angel into a bunch of eclectically designed condos. A few days ago, they put the 13,000-square-foot property up for sale with no asking price. Interested parties can contact Shahn at 917-627-6454. Given that the…
It’s a sad day in Mudville: Shahn and Arthur are having to give up on their dream of converting the Broken Angel into a bunch of eclectically designed condos. A few days ago, they put the 13,000-square-foot property up for sale with no asking price. Interested parties can contact Shahn at 917-627-6454. Given that the new NYT listings site currently returns zero responses to a Clinton Hill search, we’re unable to come up with the listing right now!
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And what exactly do you think you’ve won? The person really suffering is Arthur. But go celebrate- I wouldn’t have the heart.
bxgirl – There are certainly people in this world whom I am guilty of envying. Shahn Anderson is not one of them.
I don’t have a “personal thing” with him. I have a general thing with people who don’t know what they’re talking about telling me that I’m a greedy slimeball because i tell the truth about what is realistically possible to accomplish in real estate development given the incredible constraints of regulation, finance, physics, and the marketplace.
I didn’t just “sit back and critique”. I avoided getting everyone’s hopes up, wasting a ton of money and time, and leaving behind me the blightinh impacts of a partially completed project. Like doctors, developers should have to take an oath to “First, do no harm”. Shahn did harm here. I didn’t. I totally win.
What- we already know I’m delusional 🙂
I just always loved the place- it was so different. Art isn’t always about being beautiful- maybe on some level it was Arthur’s finger to the City as it were. It was certainly an act of defiance.(I thought you especially would appreciate that, What!)I really hope he doesn’t lose the house. That would be criminal.
MMHTRH, my gay friends are rolling on the floor over that one. No offense taken, of course. I guess I’m with bxgrl and P, chugging the koolaid, too, because I also admire people with the chutzpah and self confidence to declare they can do something that seems way too big or too difficult for most of us. I won’t cue in the swelling inspirational music while regaling you with tales of the Bill Gates’s and Richard Branson’s of the world who have done just that. If Shahn failed, it wasn’t for lack of trying, and like most of my fellow posters, we are glad he tried.
As I said, I never met Shahn, so if he can be an arrogant sod, perhaps it’s a part of that mindset that refuses to go the safe way. No one has ever accused the great successes of this world of being sweethearts, most of them aren’t. It’s too bad we know where he lives, what property he has, and so much of his business is literally out in the street, where we can sit back and fault him. I think I’d raise a large flag with an upraised finger as my standard in front of my house. None of us knows his financial or personal standing or circumstances, how easy to judge.
MM – I do not take this personally – my only stake is that it makes me feel better when the world works the way it is supposed to (i.e. there are no shortcuts, knowledge and experience matter and arrogance is bad) – lets not forget that you immediately posted how you could not understand how people could take “glee” in some one elses misfortune – my (and other peoples) responses were directly related to that provocative and ill informed statement.
P – maybe there isnt enough adaptive reuse but it isnt because developers/investors are (generally) greedy, and evil. Or that Arch/Engineers are generally dumb or uninterested in “art” Its because the financial realities of developing in NYC generally make such projects unprofitable or not profitable enough to justify the risk. If you have such a project in mind, that based on realistic models, can be profitable enough to justify the risk (whatever the risk is on the particular project) then let us know.
“Arthur was/is to ole to maintain that house and he wanted to see. ”
Arthur was/is to old to maintain that house and he wanted to sell.
I have that coffee now
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Someday this war is gonna end…
“What, if you actually knew what you were talking about, that’s the whole point. Shahn was trying to help Arthur keep and rebuild his 30 plus year creation, and develop what wasn’t actually a part of that artwork into viable living spaces that would generate income for Arthur, and Shahn as well. Sounds win/win to me. ”
BBBZZZZZZZZ Fail Nope MM. The motive was greed and delusion. When does some Asshat out of nowhere helps a elderly back man??? MM you are not that stupid (or maybe..)
This is why I get real heatted at the Asshats you have no idea about the neighborhood you are trying to conquer.
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Someday this war is gonna end..
“hat- I don’t know that Arthur wanted to sell. Broken Angel was his art, not just his property. If it were me, I would desperately be trying to hold on and salvage my work. So maybe Shahn’s hands were tied to some extent?”
Check this out! That crap on top of the Broken Angel has been there over 32 years. Remember I grew up in this neighborhood and frankly the neighbor thought this was hideous. Arthur and the “art lovers” are and still is delusional. in 2003 Arthur was/is to ole to maintain that house and he wanted to see. Here comes along Shahn the wonder Asshat and “gases” up Arthur to be a “business partner” with him. That building at the time was worth around 950k and the was tons of people lining up to buy it (all cash close in 10 day deals) but that Asshat Shahn got the best of that old man and his son. Now it’s all FUBAR and Arthur my lose his house and you see why I got off, unbelievable!
The What
Someday this war is gonna end…
fsrq – I am an architect and I work with developers. That is why I feel strongly about this. There is not enough creative adaptive re-use in New York on the whole.