17 HowardWINDSOR TERRACE $999,000
17 Howard Place
Prewar attached 4-bedroom brick house; music room, parquet floors, stained-g;ass windows, pocket doors, English basement, rear garden, 17-by-90-foot lot; taxes $2,605; listed at $1,025,000. Time on market: 3 weeks. Broker: Warren Lewis.

BROOKLYN HEIGHTS $458,000
195 Adams Street
835-square-foot 2-bedroom, 1-bath co-op in a postwar building; 24-hour doormen, windowed kitchen, hardwood floors, Statue of Liberty view, common roof deck; maintenance $972, 50% tax deductible; listed at $469,000. Time on market: 12 weeks. Broker: Brooklyn Heights Real Estate.
Residential Sales [NY Times]


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  1. As I was the poster who set off this firestorm, I should note that I was in fact careful NOT to criticize Mr. Brownstoner. My point, plain and simple, is that people (readers of the Times and this blog) turn to the sold and time on the market stuff as an indicator of where the market stands.

    Mr. Garstein is indeed forthcoming in his post, but he cites facts that only underline my point: That this particular property was on the market not for three weeks but for two months. And the houes took a haircut of close to $100,000.

    THAT Is news a reader could use. The facts cited in the Times, and reprinted in this case on this otherwise fine website, are substantively inaccurate.
    And with all due respect to Mr. Garstein, who runs a fine real estate agency, most readers don’t have the time to call him to verify so-called facts.

    Best

    Michael

  2. This is insane. Why should brownstowner have to fact check the NY Times? If its acceptable for them with a entire fact checking staff, why are we putting the grill to Mr. B who is a company of one? (or two or three…i have no clue if you have staff or not)

  3. The information on 17 Howard was not provided by Warren Lewis Realty, but is pretty much accurate. According to the NY Times, the length of time on the market is calculated from the last price at which the property was listed, until the time an offer was accepted. In this case the price was lowered to $1,025,000 on September 27th. An offer was accepted on October 18th, and the contract was signed on October 30th.The original listing price was $1,085,000, as of August 21st. These are the facts. So, depending on how one chooses to calculate length of time on the market, you now have accurate information upon which to base your conclusion. As for favoritism, let me assure you that Warren Lewis receives its share of criticism on Brownstoner, most of it unjustified. Although I find blogs intriguing, there seem to be too many people named Anonymous. Perhaps if bloggers were required to identify themselves, readers would place more value on their comments. If you have questions, please do not hesitate to call me at 638.6500, ext. 205.

  4. If you read the discussion on the recent sales page of the NYT, it mentions that time on the market reflects at the most recent price listing. So if the price dropped to $999 and then they sold within 3 weeks, that counts as 3 weeks on the market regardless of how long it had been on at other prices

  5. These are reprints from the NY Times Real Estate section. It would be strange for Brownstoner to link to something, but change the words. Anonymous 9:30, if you want to criticize someone, criticize the Times.

  6. I don’t think it’s too much to ask Brownstoner to pick up the phone to reach the broker in charge at Warren Lewis and ask him about the real original price of the Howard Pl. listing and the real length of time on the market. Otherwise he’s just acting as an advertising venue for them isn’t he? They do have a pretty prominent ad on his site.

  7. The Windsor Terrace property was on the block for several months. And it’s price was cut, to $1.25 million. And again to sell the place.

    I assume these sold listings and the asking and selling prices are provided by the realtor. Prices are insane enough, and buyers are anxious enough, without having also to tolerate flat out lies about pricing.

    But … having said that … I realize Brownstoner is at the mercy of realtors and must rely on them to be honest. Which–in many but not all cases–is not unlike relying on sharks not to bite.