ProHi Historic District Could Include Almost 800 Homes
Yesterday Atlantic Yards Report had a detailed post on the proposed Prospect Heights Historic District, which was the subject of a neighborhood meeting that representatives from the Landmarks Preservation Commission attended last week. According to the representatives, historic district designation could take up to two years. This is a neighborhood long of interest to the…
Yesterday Atlantic Yards Report had a detailed post on the proposed Prospect Heights Historic District, which was the subject of a neighborhood meeting that representatives from the Landmarks Preservation Commission attended last week. According to the representatives, historic district designation could take up to two years. This is a neighborhood long of interest to the commission, said Kate Daly, the LPC’s executive director, at the meeting. The boundaries of the proposed district (which are not yet set in stone) are shown above in a map the LPC sent us. It runs as far north as Pacific and Carlton, with a large section bordering Flatbush Ave and running approximately all the way down to Grand Army Plaza and almost as far east in one section as Washington Avenue. “So far the district would include approximately 776 buildings, and the next step is to get feedback from homeowners about the meeting we attended last week,” says LPC spokesperson Elisabeth de Bourbon. After that, the Commission will hold a public hearing on the designation that should happen before the end of the year.
The Prospect Heights Historic District Nudges Forward [AY Report]
Polemicist, it seems like you’re simplifying my position. I opposed eminent domain abuse and I support landmarking of Prospect Heights. I don’t have the inclination to explain in detail why those positions can be consistent.
If you want an intelligent discussion, then please try to keep to the point at hand, and don’t call me and my neighbors blatant hypocrites.
Though I really do get a kick out of the fact that you indulge in name-calling and call for “intelligent discussion” in the same breath. Now THAT’S entertainment.
“I was at the LPC meeting at PS9, and there was wide consensus in favor of landmark designation. People had very specific questions, but I was surprised at the lack of strong opposition. There were some people who didn’t like it, but as far as I can tell they were isolated individuals.”
LIAR. There was no such consensus.
Montrose Morris:
You’re right, someone will always tell you what to do with your property. So, all NIMBYs should quit whining when the State seizes your house in eminent domain proceedings!
The point is we need an intelligent discussion here. We can’t have this kind of blatantly hypocritical discourse regarding land use. Really, it doesn’t help anyone’s cause, most particularly your own.
This thread, like all others, has no rational basis. It is simply people screaming “I want, give it to me!”
1:40, you don’t speak for everyone in the neighborhood, so stop acting as if you do. certainly if any viewpoint were as monolithic as you suggest, you wouldn’t have to be so defensive about it.
anyway, i live there and support landmarking. you may have bought there out of a misguided sense that it was some kind of libertarian enclave separate and apart from normal civic processes, but most of us did not. and i’m surprised you can’t see that landmarking will protect you and everyone else from greedy and short-sighted developers (the same ones who benefit from eminent domain) and the worst instincts of your fellow homeowners. yes, that benefit comes at a cost, but to me it’s worth it.
I was at the LPC meeting at PS9, and there was wide consensus in favor of landmark designation. People had very specific questions, but I was surprised at the lack of strong opposition. There were some people who didn’t like it, but as far as I can tell they were isolated individuals.
Prospect Heights is a beautiful neighborhood. Polemicist mentions some buildings on the south side of Prospect Place between Vanderbilt and Carlton. He says that they are bland, but that’s only because the other buildings are so stunning. Living in New York, we forget that buildings from the 1920s are considered gems in other cities.
My coop is in the landmark area, and everyone in my building is in favor of designation. My block association met about it, and there was uniform enthusiastic support for the proposal.
MM, you weren’t at the meeting and haven’t been walking the streets talking to my neighbors. We live here and we’ve already had eminent domain come in and screw us so we know full well that others have power over our property. You can enjoy your designation. We bought here because we liked the fact that the neighborhood had one less overseer. Keep out. We don’t want LPC and we don’t need your advice. Mind your own business.
Get over it, 1:18, someone is always going to have the power to tell you what you can do with your property. If it’s not the LPC, it will be some other city agency, like DOB, HPD, or even sanitation. You aren’t living in the woods of Idaho. We live in a city, where we all affect each other, and have to abide by rules that are ideally designed to benefit us all. You aren’t the only homeowner in Prospect Hts, your neighbors may find the benefits vastly outweigh the negatives, and therefore want the designation.
12:53, if you don’t like it, scroll down. I’ll cry later. Thanks, Hal!
12:15 and MM said
“The LPC did not say that you could not put solar panels on your roof. It’s the placement that matters.”
and
“LPC never said you can’t put up solar panels, or even build new construction in an HD. It just has to be hidden from view or contextural…Perhaps you need to get the facts before telling people to shut the hell up.”
I acknowledged that LPCs issue is the placement so maybe the 2 of you should learn to read:
“tell us we can’t put solar panels toward the front of our roofs”
Maybe I have other plans for the back of my roof, maybe that’s the best placement for their eficiency, but definitely it should be none of your business or theirs because it’s not you house.
Brownstoner:
Montrose Morris, Bob Marvin, and others are right to support landmark designations in Brooklyn.
I live in a landmark district now. Believe me, it’s a positive selling point for owners of town houses and co-ops in the area, where prices have gone up exponentially since the 1980s.
Which makes me happy to see Crown Heights designated and “Pro-Hi” (which was Crown Heights when I grew up there during the 1950s) up for consideration.
A couple of decades ago, the blue-hairs at the Landmarks Commission sniffed at anything in Brooklyn (other than the Heights and Slope, of course), unable to see through their subconscious race and class prejudice. Now that Brooklyn neighborhoods are getting savvy and organizing, the LPC can’t look the other way.
Congratulations.
Nostalgic on Park Avenue