Do I need a master plumber? Planning Bathroom Renovation
We are updating a small bathroom (6’x8′) on the 3rd floor of a brownstone. All other plumbing in the house has been updated as part of a gut renovation, but this bathroom was untouched. We are reconfiguring the whole bathroom with one wet wall (currently two wet walls) and swapping the bathtub and sink locations, replacing bathtub with walk-in shower.No surprise that the bids from a GC using a master plumber are considerably higher than the bids without a master plumber. We obviously want to do this in the most cost effective manner possible, but we don’t want to regret the decision later. Do I need a master plumber for this kind of job? What has been everyone’s experience? Any advice or guidance is much appreciated.
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in Permits 12 years and 7 months ago
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ellenlourie | 12 years and 7 months ago
These are from older code but not far from current code
ellenlourie | 12 years and 7 months ago
N.Y. ADC. LAW § 28-105.4.4 : NY Code – Section 28-105.4.4: Ordinary plumbing work The following ordinary plumbing work may be performed without a permit, provided that the licensed plumber performing such work: (i) provides a monthly report listing completed work and work in progress during the preceding month, including the block, lot and address of each job, a description of the work performed or in progress at each address, and the location in each building where the work was performed or is in progress; (ii) pays the fees for such work in accordance with this code; and (iii) submits to the department a certification that the work was performed in accordance with this code and all applicable laws and rules. Ordinary plumbing work shall include: 1\. The removal of a domestic plumbing system not connected to a fire suppression system, or the removal of a portion of such system. 2\. The relocation of up to two plumbing fixtures within the same room to a maximum of 10 feet (3048 mm) distant from the original location, except in health care facilities. 3\. The installation, replacement or repair of a food waste grinder (food waste disposal) or back flow preventer and the replacement or repair of a sump pump. 4\. The replacement of closet bends. 5\. In buildings in occupancy group R2 occupied by fewer than six families or in buildings in occupancy group R3, the replacement of a gas water heater or a gas fired boiler with a capacity of 350,000 BTU or less where the existing appliance gas cock is not moved, provided that the plumber has inspected the chimney and found it to be in good operational condition. 6\. The repair or replacement of any non-gas, non-fire suppression piping not longer than 10 feet (3048 mm) inside a building, or connected piping previously repaired or replaced under this provision. 7\. The repair or replacement of non-fire suppression branch piping after the riser shutoff valve, including the replacement of fixtures, limited to two bathrooms and one kitchen per building per monthly reporting period.
ellenlourie | 12 years and 7 months ago
N.Y. ADC. LAW § 28-105.4 : NY Code – Section 28-105.4: Work exempt from permit Exemptions from permit requirements of this code shall not be deemed to grant authorization for any work to be done in any manner in violation of the provisions of this code, the zoning resolution or any other law or rules enforced by the department. Such exemptions shall not relieve an owner of the obligation to comply with the requirements of or file with other city agencies. Unless otherwise indicated, permits shall not be required for the following: 1\. Emergency work, as set forth in section 28-105.4.1. 2\. Minor alterations and ordinary repairs, as described in section 28-105.4.2. 3\. Certain work performed by a public utility company or public utility corporation, as set forth in section 28-105.4.3. 4\. Ordinary plumbing work, as set forth in section 28-105.4.4. 5\. Permits for the installation of certain signs, as set forth in section 28-105.4.5. 6\. Other categories of work as described in department rules, consistent with public safety.
ellenlourie | 12 years and 7 months ago
on plumbing work you can do ordinary fixture repairs or replace no more than 2 fixtures without opening the walls without hiring a professional (licensed plumbing contractor) . other than that professional (licensed plumbing contractor) must submit work to DOB either as montly report form op 128, limited alteration application or file for permit, depending on what needs to be done.
dluuc | 12 years and 7 months ago
If you are going to record your changes in the plans of your house (to file it), then it is obligatory. Basicaly it will looks like -$ 8,5…12 Ks. Plus other charges and materials- tiles, a vanity, a toilet, etc.. Otherwise- it is about $4 Ks for labour, plus waste removal and cost of materials. http://www.hometechforyou.com/alb/index-list2.html
Master Plvmber | 12 years and 7 months ago
By “master plumber” I assume you mean *licensed* plumber?