unlimited budget

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The company I work at is fixed cost for nearly everything, but once you get a permit involved and inspections it is extremely difficult to get a cookie cutter cost since every home is different. Literally the smallest thing like a broken meter bar can be the difference between 6k and 16K in cost.
I am not saying that once you see a job, you cannot give a ton of options to cover everything but preset options for Installations is not possible. We have tried forever but there are too many variables; the suburbs are much easier than the city.

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Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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I have the rare opportunity to work on a “green” heating and cooling system with an unlimited budget… three chillers (water and glycol) for cooling and low level heating, two HE boilers for heating and domestic heating at cooler temperatures. The most beautiful residential job I have ever been involved in… Not my work, since i am there as a control tech [IMG_7794-2](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s1/:brownstoner:p2hG:img_77942.jpg.jpg)

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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[IMG_7793](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s1/:brownstoner:vy7c:img_7793.jpg.jpg)
[IMG_7788-2](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s1/:brownstoner:wSJX:img_77882.jpg.jpg) [IMG_7788-2](img_77882.jpg)

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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[IMG_7784-2](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s1/:brownstoner:1RQP:img_77842.jpg.jpg) [IMG_7789](//muut.com/u/brownstoner/s1/:brownstoner:H1M1:img_7789.jpg.jpg)

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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Very cool. How does it work?

lkrshacmzcy | 3 years and 9 months ago

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Looks like some Caleffi products. Those are great. We had them in our office right before the pandemic and they have some great stuff!

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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It is a four stage control…the chillers work for cooling at a specified temp, … turn off when not needed, work as heating in mild chilly temperatures and switch to heating by the pair of navien boilers when the temperature is lower.. the heating /cooling is transmitted by six air handlers… a really elegant system

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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the beauty of the chiltrix chillers is that they are water/glycol based, way more environmentally friendly than mitsubishi r 410a units

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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it switches to heating when the temperature drops …the drawback is that it is a complex control system…that is why i was called in

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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how does one obtain a ‘unlimited budget’

lkrshacmzcy | 3 years and 9 months ago

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That really is awesome and some beautiful work.
I do get weary of these type of projects though because with a complex system come complex repairs if anything were to fail. I do not necessarily refer only to cost when I say this, but also to Lead Time. It is hard for some people to grasp that certain parts take a long time to come in yet they like to shoot the messenger.

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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chris…i agree…but this is a unique situation where the owner wanted the greenest system possible without concern for price…he is not trying to make money off the building

Augustiner | 3 years and 9 months ago

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For anyone with an unlimited budget 😉 look into adsorption chillers. They use process heat or solar heat heat to cool. While they are often used in commercial settings, there is one company producing a residential model: https://fahrenheit.cool/en/products/
I think they are around 25k, and have no moving parts and no compressor, and they are maintenance free. They require a water or glycol system.

chemosphere | 3 years and 9 months ago

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Is this for commercial or residential? how many units?

Master Plvmber | 3 years and 9 months ago

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Sh*t gets real when someone pipes in a hydraulic separator. Nice job. Well installed. Thanks for posting it. 🙂

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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Well done eman and thanks for sharing more details. @Augustiner – that looks cool but only available in Europe?

Putnamdenizen | 3 years and 9 months ago

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When we talk about the “greenest solution” we also need to talk about the environmental impact of the fabrication and maintenance of the system. This is especially true of a lot of high end residential construction projects.

Guest User | 3 years and 9 months ago

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It’s a six family residential installation

Augustiner | 3 years and 9 months ago

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@janedrew I think they will ship it. Definitely off the beaten path. But with either unlimited budget or untamed pioneer spirit it should be no problem.

mozeeatupu | 3 years and 9 months ago

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So what is the bill for this on an unlimited budget?