Renewing Expired Plan Approval and Landmark No Effect Certificate?

Hello. I got plan approval and Landmark certification of no effect back in 2012 to build a deck on my 3 family. But I couldn’t get the money together to actually build the deck until now. The plan approval and Landmark certificate are now expired, but I had a structural engineer review my plans and he doesn’t see anything that has changed in the code since then, so I am anticipating that I should be able to get approval again. I got one bid from an expeditor to withdraw the existing Alt-3 for the deck and resubmit it and then renew the landmark permit, pull the permit, and do the inspection, for $6300. This seems high to me for a plan that I think should be easily approved. I am wondering if anyone has had luck getting expired plans and landmark certs approved again. I’m also wondering if I can do some of this — such as withdrawing existing Alt-3 — or even all of it myself. Alternately, can anyone recommend a more reasonable expeditor? Thanks!

pitythefool

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kassie319 | 7 years ago

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I did this a while back, using Fellner to file it. TR1s included subsurface investigation (soil bore), subgrade inspection, cast in place concrete and several structural steel inspections – welding and bolting I think. A company called Twin Peaks did those that the applicant of record couldn’t do.

pitythefool | 7 years ago

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Thanks for this. I talked to Fellner and he was way more reasonable than the first expeditor I talked to, although he mentioned the potential need for a bunch of TR1 inspections, which I wasn’t anticipating. Not sure anyone commenting on this thread has filed a deck anytime recently, what TR1 inspections were required? This is just a standard 8 foot deck with supporting colums in poured concrete.

RobertGMarvin

in General Discussion 7 years ago

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AFAIK DOB forwards all applications from Historic Districts to LPC which will issue a no-effect certificate if the work is minor enough.

kassie319 | 7 years ago

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I second Fellner. Not sure if he will do Landmarks though. If you have drawings and and your structural consultant will sign and seal them you can do landmarks yourself.

pitythefool | 7 years ago

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Thank you!

a2chitect | 7 years ago

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Call Joseph Fellner at 718-398-2144. Very reasonable expeditor.

pitythefool | 7 years ago

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Thanks. I know the DOB isn’t a rational place, but I am hoping if it was approved before, the process will be a little easier and faster and cheaper…

mozeeatupu | 7 years ago

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Anything beyond two years requires re filing the job application. Basically start from scratch again.