Possible to Refinish Wood Without Noxious Fumes?
Is there a way to refinish wood without creating noxious fumes? I’m wondering if rubbing it with tung oil or shellac dissolved in Everclear (real alcohol) instead of denatured alcohol might be less noxious than the alternatives. Has anyone tried these methods? How were they? Some of the projects are in our kitchen, and we’d like to be able to use the kitchen while the refinishing is going on — or at least not have to suffer for weeks with toxic chemicals and no kitchen. Thanks!
cate
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stevecym | 6 years and 8 months ago
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for clear products, the varathane is really good. abbott paints on eagle st in greenpoint carries water based products from General Finishes including stains, clear top coats, and opaque top coats which can be mixed in any color. all dry fast and can be recoated sooner than later. I would not recommend shellac in the kitchen. I tried it in my own house and it did not hold up.
cate | 6 years and 8 months ago
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Thank you!
coconut | 6 years and 8 months ago
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Check out Varathane products. It starts off white and it self levels. Dries quickly within a few hours and the fumes are minimal. Will dry with a glass finish. Matte, satin or high gloss. Find it at homedepot.
JohnHancock | 6 years and 8 months ago
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soak the rag in water and put them in your trash, better to not reuse
cate | 6 years and 8 months ago
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Thank you so much everybody! With those rags, can you hand wash and air dry them safely? Or you need to put them in a metal can to dispose of them?
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Sand first in stages, 100, 220, 320 then wet and dry off. Sand again 320. Take off dust, wipe on oil w lint free cloth. Let sit for a minute and wipe off excess. Dry for an hour and apply another coat, wipe off again. Until desired finish, you could before final coat use xtra fine steel wool, then last coat
RobertGMarvin
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FWIW I’ve been using Minwax Antique Oil Finish for many years and prefer that to tung oil. It certainly DOE’S smell although no more than tung oil , but that dissipates quickly. Not everyone carries the stuff. I think it’s banned in California. Some hardware stores sell it (i.e. Tarzian, in Park Slope –I think) and it’s available from Amazon. You rub the stuff on and rub the excess off after a few minutes. YES. like with any oil-based finish, spontaneous combustion of the used rags is possible. I always soak mine in water. It’s important to wear gloves–the solvent is absorbed through the skin and is rather intoxicating. Good ventilation is also a must. Until I learned that I’d find myself sitting on the floor, admiring my work for hours, unwilling (perhaps unable) to get up. I don’t think I lost TOO many brain cells though and IMO the results are worth the hazard.
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Thanks! Slopefarm, how do you recommend applying the tung oil? Just rub on with some rags? No need to sand or seal or otherwise treat the wood first? Do we have to worry about the rags self combusting when they dry? Thank you so much!
slopefarm | 6 years and 8 months ago
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Easy to rub on a few coats on a small and not visible area to see if you like the effect.
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I second tung oil as the first place to start. You cna certainly get water based “poly” finish.
slopefarm | 6 years and 8 months ago
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We used tung oil on some dark wood railings. (Our house is a crazy quilt of materials, but we think at least from the parlor to the next floor up these are mahogany, though not certain). Tung oil goes on easily, gets absorbed, and makes the natural color come through more richly, with a very subtle sheen. I can’t vouch for how a tung oil finish would hold up in the kitchen against food, oils, etc.
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The wood is already stripped (and those noxious fumes lasted about a week). Now we need to finish it so it looks nice and doesn’t absorb oils, etc. These are kitchen cupboards, not floors, so we weren’t planning on poly, although I guess that is possible.
daveinbedstuy | 6 years and 8 months ago
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Even if you use fairly noxious removers, the smell doesn’t last “for weeks.” Maybe a day or so. That said, there are many water based and citrus based strippers that are much easier on those of easily offended olfactory senses.
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A water based poly isn’t that bad. Smell will be noticely gone and fully dried in 24 hours or less, smell fully gone is a week or so.