My building is narrower than what the survey states!

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john.ward | 8 years ago

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Hi,
I purchased a 2 fam townhouse in Brooklyn in 2016. The house was built in 1909 and was listed as 20′ wide and the survey done at point of sale supports this. Last week I measured the width of the house, both the front and the back and both measured 19′ 3″.
My question is if one of the neighbors houses is intruding on my lot and what’s my rights?

Thank you for any ideas or suggestions.

mozeeatupu | 8 years ago

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I would go to the neighbors and say you have a lot size issue to discuss and when they let you in, immediately move in and wave the survey around if anyone’s got any issue.

espeon | 8 years ago

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Lot lines span the centers of the party walls. Your missing 9″ is two wyhtes of brick.

john.ward | 8 years ago

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As a reference, I very quickly measured the the width of my neighbor’s house and it measured exactly 20′ as it should. My other neighbor is the corner-building of the block.
When I measured my house, I measured the width at the sidewalk.
Xagor, you’re saying that it’s the actually walls of the house that defines the lot and not the survey specs/ deed?

anotherposter | 8 years ago

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Where the sidewalk lines are probably isn’t the best indicator of lot lines.

Springs | 8 years ago

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Do you plan on changing the present use based on zoning regulations ? Otherwise, who cares if its off by 9″ ?

GreenThinker | 8 years ago

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Survey isn’t wrong. You’re just measuring wrong. Measure the house not the sidewalk. Sidewalks are almost never correct to lot line.

john.ward | 8 years ago

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I’m not measuring the sidewalk. I’m measuring the bricks (from the most far left brick to the most far right brick) and as mentioned the neighbor’s house measures 20′ as it should according to the survey.
My question is not so much if I measured correctly, but more what one would do? – 9″ x 100′ is a good amount of sq/f. and as anyone who owns something, I like to know what I own.

chemosphere | 8 years ago

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Can you post a picture of the front of the house that you measured? It can be confusing where a house begins and ends, especially with brick row houses.

Putnamdenizen | 8 years ago

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What would your proposed remedy be? Or is this something you want to know one way or another for your peace of mind?

GreenThinker | 8 years ago

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Perhaps the listing agent just rounded up to 20. But in reality it is what it is. But lets say one of your neighbors house is on your property, there’s nothing you can do. No ones gonna force them to demolish their house.

daveinbedstuy | 8 years ago

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This is one of the craziest posts in quite some time. It’s 19′ 3″ so what? And I don’t even understand your second question. If it shows that on the survey, it’s a grandfathered encroachment. Nothing you can do about it.

chemosphere | 8 years ago

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Go on the roof and measure chimney to chimney.

nyc_sport | 8 years ago

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The laws of adverse possession are inconsistent and have varied over the years, but 100 years of your building being what it is ends this story. Plus, you say you have a survey — what pray tell does it say?

robyim1 | 8 years ago

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How do you figure the neighbor is intruding on your land? Their party wall is theirs and your is yours. If the builder in 1909 screwed you out of 9″ what are you going to do? Go after your neighbor? Lol

yudashasom | 8 years ago

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The width of your property is not the same as the interior width. You have to take into consideration the party or independent wall.

Is this post a joke?

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Thanks for all the replies. My original question was not how to measure a wall, but how to go legally around the discrepancy of the survey and if I have to do anything legally. For starters, I’m currently paying tax of property that I don’t own. Also, I would like to know if this could be of a future problem if I were to sell or if my neighbor are selling their house. This is more thoughts then anything else and more me being precocious, hint the question. So no, it’s not a joke and the question is not how to measure a wall. I’ve since found the legal term, which is adverse possession, but things are way overdue and that is were the story ends.

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Good story

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There won’t be any issues. Encroachments and issues where actual homes don’t exactly “measure up” are not issues with mortgage companies or your ability to sell a house and pull permits for any sort of work. Title Insurance notes easements and encroachments. Stop worrying about these non-issues. And, you are not paying taxes on proprty you don’t own. And stop researching legal terms that, in reality, do not apply.