Landmarks- Vinyl Windows

Is it possible to get approval for vinyl windows on a front facade?

bk123

in General Discussion 6 years and 11 months ago

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AndrewPorter | 6 years and 10 months ago

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Housefix: No.

krobertson

in General Discussion 6 years and 10 months ago

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Will landmarks approve new vinyl windows if the existing window are already vinyl and grandfathered in? — for either the street facing or non-street facing facade?
I have a 2 to 3 windows on both facades I would like to replace. Changing only those out to historic wood would look weird with the rest of them being vinyl.

astoriahomeowner

in General Discussion 6 years and 10 months ago

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Vinyl Windows on your Landmarked building will look horrible, and won’t last long. Replace them. Dear PEOPLE, do the research BEFORE you buy a place. Violations can not only delay renovations, but can also cost you $$$.

joearchitect | 6 years and 11 months ago

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Unlikely that you will be able to legalize vinyl windows. Call LPC and ask for advice.

murph | 6 years and 11 months ago

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Reach out for guidance before you reach for your check book. Also, measure twice, cut once.

bk123 | 6 years and 11 months ago

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The project had a full plan exam, the windows were not to be replaced at that time. There were existing landmark violations when the property was bought. I don’t know if the new violation is a reiteration of an old one or because of the vinyl windows. We are making an application now to legalize the windows. I am not the owner.

RobertGMarvin

in General Discussion 6 years and 11 months ago

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While it’s true that LPC doesn’t look at interiors, an interior renovation that requires a DOB permit gets sent to them too so that LPC can make sure there’s no effect on the exterior. I was wondering if the whole gut renovation was un-permitted.

bearn96 | 6 years and 11 months ago

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We bought a house not knowing a window was in violation. We got a replacement to match the front windows next to it. We were told it was not the right window- even after using windows we are. We were also then told some of the framing around are windows was incorrect and we would have to fix it before correcting the initial window. I perused asking for specifics of what exactly we needed and was told it had to match the picture from when it was landmarked. They didn’t know but it wasn’t right. They suggested I walk around the block and look at other windows and keep trying!!!!
Good luck- I don’t know how it can be wrong if they don’t know what’s right.

murph | 6 years and 11 months ago

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LPC doesn’t look at interiors. About the vinyl windows: “I know nothing. They were there when I moved in. What do you want from me?”

lynnepoling | 6 years and 11 months ago

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Doubtful.
They want units to match original which would be an all wood window.

camp6ell | 6 years and 11 months ago

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I hope not…

RobertGMarvin

in General Discussion 6 years and 11 months ago

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The OP states that “the entire property was gutted.” Wouldn’t an application to DOB also go to the LPC?

richardsnots | 6 years and 11 months ago

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I have had composite windows approved by LPC, not vinyl per se, but not metal or wood. It depends on whether the profiles match, or come close to matching the historic ones. Bob, you dont need to file with the DOB for window replacements alone…. now, if it was part of a larger renovation, that’s another story

richardsnots | 6 years and 11 months ago

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I have had composite windows approved by LPC, not vinyl per se, but not metal or wood. It depends on whether the profiles match, or come close to matching the historic ones. Bob, you dont need to file with the DOB for window replacements alone…. now, if it was part of a larger renovation, that’s another story

AndrewPorter | 6 years and 11 months ago

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BK123: If there’s a violation, then you’re screwed. Expect to pay thousands of dollars to fix this.

RobertGMarvin

in General Discussion 6 years and 11 months ago

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If there was no landmarks application then I suppose there wasn’t a DOB one either. Oy vey!!

bk123 | 6 years and 11 months ago

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yes there is a violation, the entire property was gutted and no landmarks application was made.

RobertGMarvin

in General Discussion 6 years and 11 months ago

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In any case, if they still work OK, there’s no need to replace them unless you actually get a violation.

daveinbedstuy | 6 years and 11 months ago

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Why? If they were installed before the house/block being designated then they are grandfathered. If after, in violation, then that’s a different can of worms.