Is it common for expediters to be making false complaints to gain business?
Has anybody heard of shady expeditors making false complaints on properties to in turn solicit their services to the victimized landlords? Our member has received more than 200 false complaints on his site in the last six months and has got six letters from a company called Jack Jaffa & Associates. It seems that there is a weird correlation between the constant calls made to 311 and the number of messages their receive from that same company. Our community is trying to help them.

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greenworks | 6 years and 9 months ago
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The bill Espinal is working on is in relation to DOB surprise/spontaneously enforcing a rule regarding signs that has nearly crippled merchants in our neighborhood., starting last year. https://patch.com/new-york/brownsville/sign-fines-are-big-danger-small-business-owners-say
The City gave the fines without prompting from anyone, on their own volition.
I’m sure shady businesses are now trying to capitalize on this City action but the Bills currently going thru Council are related to the City’s sudden decision to start implementing signage rules on its own with no notice, the store owners claim.
Whatever this bill does it won’t be related to shady expediters but the imposition of the City fines to the small businesses.

bqeresident1 | 6 years and 9 months ago
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Two city council members seem to be discussing something similar in his twitter thread – people targeting/threatening stores with possible violations for signs:
https://twitter.com/JustinBrannan/status/1067551397573464064

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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if only, there was only one with this problem

greenworks | 6 years and 9 months ago
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Hi Sam, I’ll put it plainly for you — people are all kinds of crappy to good people for little or no cause — not just “Shady businesses”. See the newspaper on any given day for plenty of examples.
Best of luck to your member.

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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or shady businesses trying to make money? https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/nyregion/14about.html

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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just spite? no organized harassment by promoters maybe?

yudashasom | 6 years and 9 months ago
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I never said it does not happen – it’s just not for the reason/cause you allege.

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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no-permitz this happens to hundreds of people through tristate and we have several victims just in our community alone

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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members of our group of landlords

mozeeatupu | 6 years and 9 months ago
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A member of what?

yudashasom | 6 years and 9 months ago
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Has it occurred to you that maybe your “member” has a problem with someone? Or someone has a problem with them? Or maybe someone wants to buy the building? Could be a number of things, but I can tell it’s not what you think.

yudashasom | 6 years and 9 months ago
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Again, crazy. This article is unrelated to what you are alleging.

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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no-permitz Yes, it is, and you must be aware of the craziness unless you don’t live here or you have a dog in this fight. https://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/2379456/

yudashasom | 6 years and 9 months ago
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This is crazy. I’m not wasting anymore time with this.

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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I agree. I heard they wanted to create an inside unit at the DOB that could help homeowners go through the cracks.

Guest User | 6 years and 9 months ago
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no, i mean that DOB and HPD issue plenty of violations based on totally legitimate complaints that folks then go to expediters to help them deal with correcting. if the city’s correction process were more straightforward then maybe we wouldn’t need expediters, that’s all.

Guest User | 6 years and 9 months ago
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no, i mean that DOB and HPD issue plenty of violations based on totally legitimate complaints that folks then go to expediters to help them deal with correcting. if the city’s correction process were more straightforward then maybe we wouldn’t need expediters, that’s all.

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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Maggie O Are you saying DOB and HPD are the ones making the complaints so they can send their crews out to justify overheads? You don’t have to give your name when you file a complaint online ( if it’s a general complaint about a whole house/building no name needed. Only if it’s a complaint about a unit) then you can give a fake name or just use the name of the tenant living there.

Inigo | 6 years and 9 months ago
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no-permits No it was not. The owner lived in his house and received 100+ no heat/no hot water complaints, but he had no tenants and 30 + DOB illegal work without permit complaints. The NYPD would refuse to file because the harassment was done through 311 and not directly to him. DOB and HPD declined to cooperate because they said they had no jurisdiction over 311 and they were forced to investigate any complaint routed through the portal (even bogus repeated charges dismissed the first time). We felt horrible. The man lost his wife that same year, and his kids all live in California. We are now trying to find a new lawyer for our community who can help us with other similar situations.