Electrical hum

Hi everyone,

Looking for some help here. We own a two family townhouse, bought gut renovated. Recently, our tenants have been hearing a faint but distinct low frequency hum in their bedroom, and it’s been driving them (and in turn me) crazy. It’s at times intermittent and at times constant.

We’ve tried killing every breaker in the house, and it persisted. I’m thinking that means it’s not related to the electric wiring in this house, and perhaps something coming from the house next door. The person living next door won’t let me go in there to have a look. The tenant is asking me to tear open the dry wall to have a look, but I’m thinking that won’t really help anything, and just be expensive and pointless.

Any ideas here? Has anyone experienced this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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stevecym | 4 years and 8 months ago

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does that alarm clock have a battery back up in it?

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Thanks Cate. It was a led lamp, and alarm clock, so nothing that draws a lot of power. And thanks for the advice.

cate | 4 years and 8 months ago

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Wow! I hope you found it. If it’s really the outlet, you might want to call a licensed electrician to investigate because a hum can be a sign of a dangerous condition that could cause a fire. Simply replacing the outlet probably won’t make a difference. What are the appliances? Do they draw a lot of power? (And even when turned off?) Hopefully it’s not a coincidence — the neighbor unplugging their humming appliance on the other side of the wall. Good luck!

Guest User | 4 years and 8 months ago

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Thanks everyone for your help on this. After continued experimentation, it seems that it’s related to an outlet. The (very) weird thing is that when we killed the breaker to the room, we still heard the hum. But after unplugging the two things plugged in (and the breaker on), the hum stopped after 30 mins. And hasn’t come back with nothing plugged in to the outlet.

So I’m going to replace that outlet, but still very puzzled about how any of this is possible. Any ideas?

stevecym | 4 years and 8 months ago

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i just looked at what kind of equipment might pick up and magnify sound through walls. they have these leak detectors that come with head phones. but i am not sure they will pick up random sounds broadcast over a wider area. they seem kind of specialized with pinpoint heads whereas the device i have was made in the 1970’s and is low technology and that seems great for a variety of things. if you wish to find one of these used on ebay, the device i have is called a “Steelman EngineEar”.

stevecym | 4 years and 8 months ago

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There is probably nothing in the wall for a boro scope to look at….

You could get a stethoscope or an electronic listening device. I have something called an enginear, it is for listening for unhealthy noises in engines but can be used to listen to a lot of things including possible water leaks. With one of these instruments, the sound will get so loud and obvious, that you can move around the wall and pinpoint where it is and might even identify what it is – I like the fish tank pump comments. Maybe you will hear a little compressor running.

There had been a question about determining if someone had a water leak on here once. Before telling them to get an electronic listening device, I opened my faucet upstairs just a drip. I went to the basement and put the device to the water main and not only could I hear water moving in the pipe, but I could hear the drip landing in the sink two floors away.

If you do what I am suggesting, you are still experimenting but I bet you will be able to tell that neighbor right where that sound is coming from.

shahnandersen

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@Coolguyjones re:Flip. Shoddy work can result in loose connections in the heating or electrical system which can create vibrations. Just a wild guess, like yours and everyone elses. Good luck.

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Fish tank air pump ??

yudashasom | 4 years and 8 months ago

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Fish tank air pump ??

nathanjoe755 | 4 years and 8 months ago

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Just an idea… but you have you thought about getting a borescope inspection camera? You’d just need to drill a hole large enough to fit the snake camera in… I thought about getting one when I was inspecting behind my drywall… might still get one. If anything it will give you and the tenants some peace of mind.

RobertGMarvin

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Steve,
I think that both the Op and tenants can hear the noise, so it’s probably external and not mass titinitus

Rick | 4 years and 8 months ago

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Mystery noises are bothersome. If your tenants hear it I would expect the people on the other side of the wall hear it too. It’s likely something like a humidifier that is not in the room that they sleep in .

stevecym | 4 years and 8 months ago

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How old are the tenants? I am 56. Ask them if they have ever heard of tinitus.

Let’s see what bob marvin says and if he’s never heard of tinitus, I call him lucky.

rwood | 4 years and 8 months ago

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Maybe it’s a fish tank air pump from the other side of the wall? Have you ask the neighborhoods?

cate | 4 years and 8 months ago

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It’s likely not wiring or something in the wall, but an appliance on the neighbor’s side of the wall. It could be new, which could explain why it wasn’t a problem previously. For example, perhaps the neighbor just got an air purifier, a white noise machine or a fan. Is the room a bedroom? (Or a kitchen?) Any of these items could cause vibrations in the flooring. If that’s the issue, they can stop the problem by moving the appliance somewhere else in the room, putting it on a thick towel and/or on top of a solid piece of furniture sitting on a rug. So might be a good idea to chat kindly with the neighbor, if it’s possible.

Guest User | 4 years and 8 months ago

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Hi Bob – yah, it’s a flip. But why the difference from anything else? Just shoddier work? What can I do to address it?

shahnandersen

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> @Coolguyjones
> «but is it really possible for sound to vibrate through the brick, insulation, and drywall?»
YES. Especially in an investor renovated house (flip).

Guest User | 4 years and 8 months ago

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It’s 100% coming from the party wall, but is it really possible for sound to vibrate through the brick, insulation, and drywall? I’m fairly sure is from the neighbor, but can it possibly be something sitting in between the drywall and brick party wall?

MDR | 4 years and 8 months ago

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You could try putting an ear to the party wall and see if it is coming from the neighbor.