DOF inspection

@augustiner “renovation cost will be added to assessed value 1 to 1 ” So a 50K renovation increases assessed value by 50,000 in the few years after renovation? I haven’t seen that happening but maybe i misunderstood.

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Arkady | 4 years and 4 months ago

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I had my building inspected (the inspector was not the sharpest knife in the drawer) & there was no change. I still felt the tax was too high so I asked again the following year (at the recommendation of a DoF guy at one of the annual seminars given by the city) & the tax was actually reduced.

Guest User | 4 years and 4 months ago

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Glad to hear a positive outcome and glad your tax was reduced. It can go either way which makes me nervous. They did say I could skip it if i wanted to. Sometimes the tax won’t go up but they still increase your market value . This then means it goes up a lot the following year. If they just fixed the system they would make the same amount of money without unfairly taxing some people over others.

hkapstein | 4 years and 4 months ago

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I suppose if they fixed the system it would less heavily tax people who did extravagant renovations relative to those who lived in their homes since 1970 without doing any work. I don’t know though, I think it might favor investors and developers over homeowners in the long term.

Augustiner | 4 years and 4 months ago

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It favors people and investors who do shoddy renovations without filing for permits, and punishes the ones who code-compliant upgrades. It also subsidized tax abated new construction.
If the argument is that the value of a house or tripled after a renovation I would argue that‘s not true.
I don’t see he point why a house that has nice tiles vs cheap tiles has to be taxed differently. Maybe I bought the nice tiles for cheap or I made them myself in pottery class. If I pay 100k to put in a new sprinkler system, that should not add to my taxes. It makes my neighbors house safe. But the main point is: no one knows, no one understands

Taxation by sqf with a discount for owner occupants or seniors that would make sense. And clear formulas for different type of C of O discounts or sucharges. Just something that fits on 2 pages and that is transparent

Guest User | 4 years and 4 months ago

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Very sad that the people doing things by the book are the ones getting punished. Ha ha love the tile example….People who have a design sense can make cheap look good. It should be based on sq footage, condition of mechanicals and any additional aspects like roof deck etc. Finishes can add value. However the DOF assessments seem inappropriately slanted towards aesthetics. You could have someone slap on finishes and have old plumbing/electric and the city would tax them more than someone who upgraded mechanicals but the finish is not as good.

hkapstein | 4 years and 4 months ago

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I hear what you’re saying, but I think the bigger picture is that people doing work by the books are often developers building 100 million dollar condos, and people who have lived in a home since 1990 could have there taxes go up 10x and their equity wiped out so that developers like trump can make an extra 20% on their next job. Doesn’t sound like a great policy to me. By the way, I do pull permits in my jobs, so I’m taking this hit too.

But here I think we may find common ground. I think that taxes for non principle residences or commuter taxes make more sense. Why does moving to Hoboken save a banker 100k in taxes that gets made up by folks like you? Why not increase taxes on empty apts owned by foreign investors, and let our prices move to market value over the next 30 years?

Guest User | 4 years and 4 months ago

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Agree developers are doing it by the book. Developers also get tax abatements and deductions that homeowners don’t get. I don’t know how people get away with not pulling permits as you take a big risk if someone calls DOB. There are a lot of empty apts right now due to the pandemic and recent changes in rent regulations and capital improvements. Developers can’t deduct as much with improvements so they aren’t doing that work and letting apts lie empty.