BLOCKING OFF A PARKING SPOT WITH CONES?

Last night I was circling the block trying to find a place to park and I noticed an opening that was blocked off by 3 orange cones, so I got out and moved the cones to the sidewalk and parked. Then this morning when I went to the car a guy came out of the house I was parked in front of and confronted me about being a “bad neighbor” for moving the cones he had placed to save his spot because “it is hard to park around here.” I tried to explain the absurdity of his argument and that parking spots are public property so he has no right to do that. He kept accusing me of not knowing “how it goes around here”. Admittedly I only moved to the block a year and a half ago but I have lived in Brooklyn with a car for 20+ years…..anyway, is there some sort of unspoken rule I am unaware of or is this guy full of it?

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slopefarm | 7 years ago

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I know you meant it as a joke, but I think it can play out the way I described. How does anyone know anything? I dunno, the cone thing is pretty obnoxious, and he must know it and does it anyway, unless he is not an old timer but just moved here from Boston. Yeah, talk to him, ok, but common sense suggests not to expect much. Do a little reconnaissance with the neighbors (what’s the deal with that guy, etc?”) may help find the right solution. But let’s not pretend this is just some guy who doesn’t know better and that it isn’t obnoxious behavior anywhere in BK, no matter how long one has lived here. I know there is a temptation to call out a sense and tone of entitlement on the OP’s part, here, but it is misplaced.

crhorsken | 7 years ago

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Him getting cones was a joke ….

“I doubt anyone who does this is receptive to a friendly approach”

How do you know? Does anyone on this chain know him ? Has Randy ever tried to spark up a convo with him about a sports game ? The weather? The best bar in the neighborhood?
I doubt it, we’re really labeling someone based off of them placing cones to save a parking spot? Come on folks !
My point is, if they had been friendly towards one another BEFORE the cone incident, it would be easy to handle now.

crhorsken | 7 years ago

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Him getting cones was a joke ….

“I doubt anyone who does this is receptive to a friendly approach”

How do you know? Does anyone on this chain know him ? Has Randy ever tried to spark up a convo with him about a sports game ? The weather? The best bar in the neighborhood?
I doubt it, we’re really labeling someone based off of them placing cones to save a parking spot? Come on folks !
My point is, if they had been friendly towards one another BEFORE the cone incident, it would be easy to handle now.

slopefarm | 7 years ago

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“If all else fails, then get some cones and do the same! Hahahaha!”

That’s why you make this an issue now. Cones are not the norm. The longer it slides teh harder it is to change and the more likely others will follow suit. The guy with the cones is the one trying to change things. I doubt anyone who does that is receptive to a friendly approach. But your suggestion about getting to know the block is a good one. To the extent randi hasn’t done it, a good strategy is to sound out a few friendly folks on the block first. This may lead to good info, a collective strategy, etc. But I wouldn’t scorn anyone for being PO’d at this or the arrogance behind it.

crhorsken | 7 years ago

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I will say this, if you have never been a resident of a neighborhood that was a victim of gentrification, then it’s hard to get the point RW is making. Granted RW is a bit over the top, but often gentrification isn’t just a new crowd of people moving in, it’s literally wiping out the entire culture and feel of the neighborhood. Lots of times you will see newcomers move to a block and see what they can do to “fix it” or “make it better” or “make everyone feel at home”. Is there anything wrong with that ? Absolutely not
But to the established residents, the block doesn’t need “fixing”.
Is the man wrong for placing cones to save a spot ? Of course he is!
But come on is it REALLY that big of a deal and if the entire block isn’t bothered with it then it’s not that serious.
Have you ever tried to have a convo with this man BEFORE you were upset about his cones ?
Did you ever make a joke with him ? Say anything to him at all? I guarantee you if you were cool or neighborly to one another prior to this he would have listened to you.
RW isn’t saying nobody should follow the ru les, they’re trying to say learn how things work on the block BEFORE you rock the boat. Neighbors can work stuff out without having to involve 311.
If all else fails, then get some cones and do the same! Hahahaha!

crhorsken | 7 years ago

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I will say this, if you have never been a resident of a neighborhood that was a victim of gentrification, then it’s hard to get the point RW is making. Granted RW is a bit over the top, but often gentrification isn’t just a new crowd of people moving in, it’s literally wiping out the entire culture and feel of the neighborhood. Lots of times you will see newcomers move to a block and see what they can do to “fix it” or “make it better” or “make everyone feel at home”. Is there anything wrong with that ? Absolutely not
But to the established residents, the block doesn’t need “fixing”.
Is the man wrong for placing cones to save a spot ? Of course he is!
But come on is it REALLY that big of a deal and if the entire block isn’t bothered with it then it’s not that serious.
Have you ever tried to have a convo with this man BEFORE you were upset about his cones ?
Did you ever make a joke with him ? Say anything to him at all? I guarantee you if you were cool or neighborly to one another prior to this he would have listened to you.
RW isn’t saying nobody should follow the ru les, they’re trying to say learn how things work on the block BEFORE you rock the boat. Neighbors can work stuff out without having to involve 311.
If all else fails, then get some cones and do the same! Hahahaha!

slopefarm | 7 years ago

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“I definitely see her point”

Her point being? Don’t complain about what the old timers do unless you are one? Even if the old timer is completely in the wrong (cones are not a thing in any BK hood I know)? It’s ok when gentrifiers rent and pay exorbitant rents but not ok when they buy and have a stake in neighborhood norms?

I have been in BK 33 years and bought our current house 13 years ago. The old timers and newcomers on my block get along because we share a common set of norms around what makes for a civil and neighborly block. None of us pulls any of that nonsense with the cones. And we don;t turn any discussion about issues on our block into as fight over who has a right to say something.

yudashasom | 7 years ago

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I think RW could turn a conversation about puppies or a beautiful summer day into something like this.

crhorsken | 7 years ago

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I thought the same thing, while RW was a tad aggressive, I definitely see her point.

crhorsken | 7 years ago

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I thought the same thing, while RW was a tad aggressive, I definitely see her point.

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How some comment about parking cones end up a gentrification argument? :/

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How some comment about parking cones end up a gentrification argument? :/

slopefarm | 7 years ago

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Not sure why I assumed the Whats are divorced (technically the The Whats) or that the Mrs. got most of the property, but yeah, the eight letter F word was one aspect of those comments that reminded me of old times here.

randolph | 7 years ago

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> @slopefarm
> she must be the ex-Mrs. What.
i had the exact same thought. f#@%tard hits so close to home.

slopefarm | 7 years ago

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LOL. I have to say, I read RW’s comments and thought she must be the ex-Mrs. What. Several turns of phrase got me thinking along these lines.

RobertGMarvin

in General Discussion 7 years ago

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“Go with the flow”? Maybe get some cones to put in front of YOUR house. If that’s REALLY the norm on your block it would be great to have a reserved parking spo.

randolph | 7 years ago

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“you think that because you come into a neighborhood that your kind didn’t even know existed 10 years ago and send your kid to public school, you deserve a medal. You think because you spent money to rehab a house in a traditionally low income neighborhood that everyone should applaud you.”

As I said I’ve lived in Brooklyn since 1997. That’s over 20 years. I know the neighborhood then and I know it now.

I don’t deserve a medal but everyone deserves public parking!

I don’t deserve applause but I do expect my neighbors to be neighborly the way I am- keep the sidewalk clean, say hi to people, let the guy across the street use my hose to wash his car, whatever it might be. If anything my crusade against this jerk with his blocked off parking space is in an effort to better the block for everyone.

randolph | 7 years ago

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“Why would a renter be on a forum that is geared towards homeowners?”

I know renters that (used to) read this site, and they often feature rentals so I’m not sure what you mean.

randolph | 7 years ago

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“Get over yourself and find another parking spot”

If you read this thread you would know I had one incident with the guy and I don’t park there. Just updating the thread with my new intel and seeing that he’s driving a huge suv registered in another state I’m tempted to force the issue.