Exterior window caulk
I need to get the caulk on my rear windows stripped and recaulked. It’s two floors, and 8 windows in total. The guy I usually get to do my work is quoting $1600: $200 per window. Does this seem high, or reasonable? The house is in Prospect Lefferts Gardens. Thank you.

donaldmerse
in Exteriors 5 years and 7 months ago
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stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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he went over a piece that is going to fall out. that is your proof. looking at the caulk on the masonry is no measure as it is always hard to do and look neat. but show another photo of metal to metal and i will look at the bead and tell you about his workmanship. still, i see a void on the last photo and that is grounds to tell him he does not know what he is doing.

donaldmerse | 5 years and 7 months ago
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donaldmerse | 5 years and 7 months ago
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Here’s the line item on the contract….

donaldmerse | 5 years and 7 months ago
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Thanks Steve. I agree. I did intend to do this job on my own but with kids and the fact that I travel a lot, the task kept getting pushed. So I hired out. I’m regretting that I did that. Thanks for your detailed insight.

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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i would have come and caulked your windows at 200 per and i would have been there all day yesterday and all day today and into tomorrow.

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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also, your job should spec the caulk. i can tell it is not dap and suspect it is phenoseal or silicone, which is good. but still, what is the point of using top shelf product if you run over old?

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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ok, also, it is hard to caulk against masonry. but the part where he ran over the old caulk, that is a shitty job. a bead of caulk should be uniform and he should have put enough on to cover the old stuff (which i do not think he should have done anyway). who taught this guy how to caulk? i worked for a window installer in high school and he would thrown a hammer at me if i tried to pass that off. i am not kidding.

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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this is why homeowners should learn to do stuff like this on there own. first off, caulking is not a real high skill trade, so none of us want to do it (though on wood, i am good at it and fast) and consequently it falls to people who really don’t want to do it either.
without knowing the conversation you had with the person whom you contracted and without seeing what was written, it is hard to say. was he supposed to rip out the old caulk even if it was stable and at 200 per unit, it sounds like he should have but unless that was in writing…..
some old time contractors have a way of doing things that it does not have to be spelled out, it is a given. it is not that way anymore. every step has to be spelled out because the focus is on money, not taking your time and producing quality.
depends on what he told you he would do.
two people working from the outside, 200 per window sounds ok but it looks like they were more interested in getting into your wallet than doing the job.

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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and the other photo, it looks like he missed his mark.

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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he did not strip it out in spots so it is only as good as the old caulking which does look stable.

donaldmerse | 5 years and 7 months ago
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There are some pictures of the work. Interested to hear comments.

donaldmerse | 5 years and 7 months ago
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donaldmerse | 5 years and 7 months ago
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Update: they used a ladder, worked from outside, did not have any safety restraints. There was a guy holding the ladder at the bottom. From what I could see they partly scraped out some of the old caulk and put the new on top.
The ceilings are about 11 feet and start from about 5 feet off grade level, so the second floor extends from approx 16 feet to 27 feet above grade.

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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cate, i did not reread his post to say this, but if the windows are a brick-to-brick installation, working from inside is ok and i suppose people are correct to question the price a little. if this is a wood frame house with frames that sit outside, it may not be so easy. i am from the ‘burbs and was thinking climbing.

cate | 5 years and 7 months ago
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He’ll caulk from inside, right, not use a ladder or scaffold? It does seem a bit high although it can be challenging to find experienced, skilled people (even for something as minor as caulking) to do small jobs.

stevecym | 5 years and 7 months ago
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lurkar, the issue is pulling the old caulk out. while it may have failed in some spots, the spots where it is still holding will take time and it should all be removed to do this correctly.

donaldmerse | 5 years and 7 months ago
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Seems like the guy is reasonable.

neweco | 5 years and 7 months ago
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Do you mind posting a pic?

Lurker | 5 years and 7 months ago
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Prices vary, and if your window guy can regularly get that price bully for him, but you can get your windows fully capped/ recapped for 100-150 per window from a number of reputable firms (with insurance).