Stainless Steel Chimney Liner--Permits, Design Drawings Needed?

I didn’t see a rule in forum against cross posting, so this is also posted under DOB topic heading:

Hi All,
First time posting here. I am owner of one family row house, three stories with 1950’s terra cotta clay chimney liner going to a gas fired boiler. Chimney company video taped the inside of chimney and we see evidence of spalling, pitting and other imperfections. I’ve been informed by chimney company that I will need to hire an engineer and file drawings with DOB to obtain permits to install a stainless steel liner which they recommend. This may be true for multi-families doing oil to gas conversions which may not have had a previous liner, but does DOB require permits for single family already using gas and adding liner inside existing liner? The current chimney inside diameter is over-sized at 11 1-2“ but liner will reduce to 6” which is I’m told is appropriate for size of building and boiler. Any info would be appreciated.

mdcoons

in Heating and Cooling 6 years and 7 months ago

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deanbh | 6 years and 7 months ago

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This is the first i’ve heard of it as well…….

I can recommend Jose from A&J Chimney, ajchimney2010@yahoo.com ,718-414-0166

Let me know if you want to see the chimney liner job they did at Henry St but did a great job for us.

slimc | 6 years and 7 months ago

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Namahs, what did you pay for your liner and labor?

namahs | 6 years and 7 months ago

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This is news to me, we had similar work done a year ago. Our clay had cracks and installing the stainless steel liner was quick. One thing you have to watch out for is what size of SS liner, you need to calculate the total BTU on all our units in your boiler room.
We got estimates from half a dozen of chimney companies and didn’t hear about getting DOB involve. Maybe this is a new process and I’m lucky?

eman134 | 6 years and 7 months ago

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sadly, what used to be a $3000 job has been complicated by the DOB about 2 or 3 years ago…chimney companies are no longer allowed to provide an affidavit of work…an engineer must submit drawings, inspect, etc. If your boiler is under 350,000 btu and never filed, you may find another company willing to line without the addtl expense

RobertGMarvin

in Heating and Cooling 6 years and 7 months ago

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I didn’t think any of that stuff was needed to install a stainless steel liner in the chimney of a single family house.