Backyard fence exit door?
The city of New York has just sent me a violation because I do not have an exit door in my backyard wooden fence. They’re threatening me with daily fines if I don’t install one. Apparently, the law says that backyards must have exits to either a neighboring backyard or the street (which is impossible because our building is physically attached to buildings on both sides). I’m not certain about the law, so I have these questions for the esteemed community: 1\. Is there really a law that says I have to install a door so that I can get to my neighbors’ backyards? 2\. The violation suggests that there’s a loophole: If the neighbors provide a letter indicating that they do not consent. Is that actually a way out of this thing? 3\. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks! GERSH KUNTZMAN
brooklyngersh
in Building Code 13 years and 4 months ago
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BenGazi | 13 years and 4 months ago
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get the retun address and threaten THEM over thier bullshit
berniceshola | 13 years and 4 months ago
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sounds like a door-fence company trying to drum up business.
wyckoff | 13 years and 4 months ago
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http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/downloads/pdf/tool_kit_fences.pdf There’s nothing in there about doorways, and I’ve never seen one. Did they provide you with a reference to the code section, or specify how big it needs to be?
brooklyngersh | 13 years and 4 months ago
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It’s a two-family house. Normal brownstone.
anotherposter | 13 years and 4 months ago
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Is this for buildings with X or more units? I can’t imagine all the single family yards near us having gates in their fences, but maybe a big multi-unit building.
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Never heard of or seen this!
brucef | 13 years and 4 months ago
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We have always built in a doorway in rear fences because of this code.
daveinbedstuy | 13 years and 4 months ago
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Absolutely ridiculous.
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Google “door decals”