Off-Site Affordable Housing Moving Along on Quincy
Under inclusionary zoning codes, a developer putting up a big market-rate tower in downtown Brooklyn can put up an even bigger market-rate tower if he agrees to build some affordable housing. The kicker is that he doesn’t even have to include the affordable portion on site: He can stick the affordable units in a cheaper…
Under inclusionary zoning codes, a developer putting up a big market-rate tower in downtown Brooklyn can put up an even bigger market-rate tower if he agrees to build some affordable housing. The kicker is that he doesn’t even have to include the affordable portion on site: He can stick the affordable units in a cheaper part of town and still earn the market-rate bonus. Which is how 15 Quincy Street came to be. Instead of including the 48 affordable units in its 40-story tower at Myrtle and Prince, BFC Partners is putting them on Quincy across the street from the Salvation Army. Do you think developers who benefit from inclusionary housing should be able to build the affordable portion off-site?
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While this discussion of racism is certainly relevant, I’d like to bring the subject matter back to the building for a minute. This is not a racially-fueled concern, but more of an investment concern: last year I purchased a condo on Quincy St. With the rise of this building, I’ a bit concerned that the value of my unit will start to decrease rather than increase.
To me, – and again, this has nothing to do with race – this building seems like more of a mini-project, especially since the developers made special note of offering housing to those “transitioning out of homelessnessâ€. Now, I know that some people fall into hard times and become homeless because they lose their job, or a spouse dies, they get foreclosed on, etc. but there are many people that become homeless because of drugs and alcohol, crime, etc. I don’t really think I feel comfortable with the latter living on my block, yet I feel powerless to do anything about it.
Will they be carefully screening those that they allow into the building? I 100% believe that everyone has the right to improve their life, but I don’t believe that everyone is ready or capable to do so at certain times.
I made a choice to invest in this neighborhood because, like all investors, I wanted my property to increase in value. This feels like a step in the opposite direction, and I’m fearful that this will significantly hurt the potential this neighborhood has.
Knowing what this building is, – honestly – would any of you buy an apartment on this block now?
/\ If you mean argue Black men are all criminals, then you’re wrong.
What I mean is that I don’t want to live next to any criminals, of any color. And low income housing often includes these types.
Wow. Defensive much? I think you picked a perfectly appropriate name for your argument. I just find it funny that you don’t have the courage to stand by your argument. Jamal, Shareef, or Taquian all would have done the job too. Would you have backed away from those as well?
Bring up the PC police, swear a blue streak, attack me, but you still can’t argue the fact that you used Tyrone to evoke a black male (which, I will say again, was appropriate to your argument, so I’m definitely not the PC police), and then you denied that you meant to use the name for that purpose. Hilarious.
You may have had a valid point in there somewhere, but it was lost when you, yourself, backed away from it.
I’m signing off now. Not because I don’t want to continue this, but because I actually really do need to go do other things, away from the computer. But it’s been fun.
How do you “know” these things? Does posting on an internet message board give you telepathic abilites? If I was trying to be sooooo blatant, how about Jamal? Shareef? Taquian?
There are black criminals.
There are white criminals.
There are Latino criminals.
There are asian criminals.
This is nothing new.
If you actually read my posts, I told Beeotch that what happened to her is wrong. It is wrong. I don’t agree with her cocksucker landloard. Or the asshole in the car.
God. Talk about the PC police. I guess I should have seen it coming from a borough that names streets after the likes of Sonny Carlson.
No, Tyrone painted the picture you meant it to paint. It was the perfect name to use, and you knew that when you wrote it. What made me laugh was how far you ran away from it when someone criticized you for it. Do you have to turn around and look behind you when you backpedal that fast, or do you use a mirror?
Okay.
So?
Tyrone is Black. And he spent time in Attica. WTF is your point? Should I have said Tony? How about Jose? Chang? Brad? Patel? Which name would have floated your boat? Pick one.
Ah, touche, Anonymous. You have taught me much today. I bow before you.
Amy- so who’s the self righteous too much time on their hands person now?
But you gave him a great rebuttal- gotta give you that. Maybe now you see how easy it is to get drawn into an argument with a nutjob like common sense.
Well Geez, if you’re going to bring teh interwebs into it, then here you go:
http://www.behindthename.com/glossary/view.php?title=africanamerican_names
“Andre, Darius, Darryl, Maurice, and Tyrone are examples of names that, though used by non-black Americans, are more commonly used by black Americans.”
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_44/b3856038_mz007.htm
“As an example, in California from 1989 to 2000, out of 457 boys named Tyrone, 445 were black.”
For goodness sake, someone even wrote a whole book about it: Deconstructing Tyrone: A New Look at Black Masculinity in the Hip-Hop Generation by Natalie Hopkinson and Natalie Y. Moore Cleis Press, October 2006 $14.95, ISBN 1-573-44257-7
So, a white movie star popular 60 years ago does not sway the argument one iota.