Man on the Street: 580 Carroll
After the saga at 580 Carroll Street development was resolved, and units started selling in late April, we wanted to see what people in the neighborhood thought about the building. To refresh, it is an Enrique Norten design, built on the stretch of Carroll between 4th and 5th Avenue. The developers wanted to build three…
After the saga at 580 Carroll Street development was resolved, and units started selling in late April, we wanted to see what people in the neighborhood thought about the building. To refresh, it is an Enrique Norten design, built on the stretch of Carroll between 4th and 5th Avenue. The developers wanted to build three extra townhouses on the front lawn of the five story building, but were denied by the Board of Standards and Appeals. Passers-by were just asked their general opinion of its place in the neighborhood.
Beth, a resident of Carroll Gardens, said, “I think it’s great. I’m not upset about modern additions to the neighborhood at all.” She thought that as long as a building was responsive to the neighborhood, and it “wasn’t an imitation of some brownstone,” she approved.
Matt (not pictured), in Accounts Payable and a Park Slope resident, considered the building intensely before reaching his decision: “Um, no.” When asked to clarify, he said “This would fit somewhere else better, probably Manhattan. On such a small street, with the brownstones, it doesn’t quite fit.”
Sirin, a TV Producer, said: “It’s better than what I see in Williamsburg.” It reminded her of a building in Europe or Miami, but she says, “Because the buildings in my neighborhood are very, very ugly, this is okay. It doesn’t go well with this neighborhood, but I guess they tried.”
Anne and Richard, self-professed “Park Slope old timers” were also hesitant. “I don’t know,” said Richard, “Is it strong? It doesn’t look as strong as brick.” Anne didn’t like it but said, “Progress goes on.” They both worried about parking problems the building may cause.
A fairly lukewarm reception from Park Slope passers-by. Brownstoners, any final aesthetic opinion on 580 Carroll?
The fenced-in, set back plaza from this view, Carrol Street I guess, is appalling. BSA should have approved the additional bulk just so this condition would not be the end result. I believe the building design works well because the existing building wall on Garfield is pretty much maintained with this new construction. Other than that the juxtaposition is jarring.
I’ll reserve judgement until I have seen it in person, which somehow I have managed not to do in spite of teh fact I am now only a few blocks away.
Building looks nice in the photo but the setback looks weird.
If I recall there are a total of three or four units a floor – two in the front and one or two in the back. And, since it’s central air throughout, no need for Fedders!
“I like it and can imagine living there w/ my family and finishing many workdays nearby at Mission Delores w/ my new baby in a Bjorn and me often spilling tiny, tiny little droplets of IPA on her beautiful little head. Secondhand smoke be damned.”
QOTD!
I remember liking this building in the renderings. The townhouses would probably have helped alot in terms of maintaining the street wall. I haven’t seen it in person, but in the pic it looks far better than anything I’ve seen on 4th Ave.
“Looks like something in Redondo Beach”
So, is each floor one unit? Or does the left side get a nice balcony and the right side get screwed, all for the sake of a ‘line.’
I like it and can imagine living there w/ my family and finishing many workdays nearby at Mission Delores w/ my new baby in a Bjorn and me often spilling tiny, tiny little droplets of IPA on her beautiful little head. Secondhand smoke be damned.
The “building” is fine – the setback and the fences are disgraceful; yet somehow because it has some faux name-brand associated with it, Brownstoner hypocritically doesn’t rail against it like he does with virtually every other new building in NYC.
Their is truly no excuse to break up the street wall like this and then add insult to injury by blocking the street out with a horrible stockade fence (on both the back and front)
This development is an eyesore the likes of which the average fedders building could never hope to be….cant wait till they tag up the wood, it should be charming