Development Watch: 431 Warren Street
We stumbled across yet another Scarano project last week, this one at 431 Warren Street between Bond and Nevins. This is slated to be a 14-unit, 20,000-square-foot residential building whose greatest hurdle is going to be the proximity to the Wyckoff Gowanus Houses across the street. This was self-certified by the man himself back in…
We stumbled across yet another Scarano project last week, this one at 431 Warren Street between Bond and Nevins. This is slated to be a 14-unit, 20,000-square-foot residential building whose greatest hurdle is going to be the proximity to the Wyckoff Gowanus Houses across the street. This was self-certified by the man himself back in ’05. It doesn’t appear to be have the ceiling heights to accommodate mezzanines. GMAP P*Shark DOB
also Scarano at 121 Wyckoff St. (near corner of Hoyt) and I guess can call next to projects also.
But is only 4 family though. Lots of metal exterior-bit over the top.
( 335 Warren I do think is going to be nice)
The Scarano is at 335 Warren. It’s listed on the “multifamily” site. props to them for sort of admitting that its built next to a women and children’s center.
btw what is the gynormous “smith street” project listed on the site, which is supposedly going to sit on an entrance to the f line?
I have lived near the projects for almost 10 years now. Its not Mayberry perfect, but things have improved considerably in the last 5 years. I see more police on foot in and around the area, and occasionally a squad car stationed at strategic intersections. The crack block has been under intense scrutiny and the complaints of the residents (and resulting bad press) seems to have had an impact on police surveillance. (It was also announced in September of 2006 that CCTV cameras would be installed in and around the Gowanus and Wyckoff projects to improve the safety of residents in and outside of the projects. Have not seen them but maybe I am not looking hard enough.) What has also changed is the composition of residents in the projects which is evident during the morning rush-hour(more well-dressed working people, for one). Is there a discount for being so near the projects? Absolutely. I would even go so far as to quantify it as being 10-15% off the going rate for something comparable on Wyckoff and Bergen Streets between Nevins and Bond. In my book, that translates as a bargain price to own something in an area that is extremely convenient in terms of transportation and amenities proximity to projects notwithstanding.
I went to the Scarano Web site, and couldn’t figure out which one is the said development on Warren between Smith and Hoyt. A little help here?
FYI, for what it’s worth, the assailant was mentally distrubed and from Red Hook.
I remeber when I first moved to Carroll Gardens in mid 1994. Within the first month a Deli owner (deli on the corner of Degraw and Henry) was killed by a shotgun blast during a robbery and someone was shot execution style while sitting on a bench in Carroll Park.
That’s a long way of saying that these neighborhhods (Cobble Hill, Boerum Hill etc. are all much safer than they used to be and all pretty much in the safe category.
whoa. the projects are a real problem, and i wouldn’t want to live next to them. but i have lived less than a block away from them for three years and haven’t had any problems. could there be? sure. and since the projects aren’t going to get gentrified, you can’t simply buy in the brownstoner crowd fixes the problem with tasteful renos down the line. but do get a grip – the incident at the met involved the cops shooting a crazy guy. that’s upsetting, but could happen anywhere. and as it turns out said crazy guy was from red hook.
That specific area is simply not anywhere near safe. No amount of new housing is going to change that any time soon. I lived 1 block up and 2 blocks over from these projects for 4 yrs … there was even a shooting at the MET foods on Smith St a few months back. Anyway …. bring on the ugly where ever you dare build.
This is across from Gowanus Houses not Wyckoff(gardens).
How’d you miss the Scarano on Warren between Smith and Hoyt (which does have the ceiling/mezz height) and much closer to completion?
Not sure what it means -self-certify in 2005 when I don’t think construction of this one commenced back then.
Its not just the proximity to the Gowanus houses that will make this a challenging sale, but its also located on what Boerum Hill locals call ” the crack block,” where prices of homes and condos are priced less than similar properties one block away. Additioinally, this development is right next door to The Vargas Market, which is so shady. Its known to have a numbers racket running out of that spot, and there are always at least two sketchy characters hanging out in front of this place.
The NY Daily News ran a story a while back on this block and its problems compared to the rest of the newly tonified Boreum Hill.
Oh yeah, I’m first!