444 7th ave
In keeping with the neighborhood m.o. of maxing out available FAR, the owners of 444 7th are tacking on a fourth floor and mezzanine to the existing three-story building that houses local watering hole Bar 4. The reader who sent in this pic likened the addition to the building getting a “wig and a mullet” which seems like a rather apt description to us. It feels oddly similar in spirit to our old friend 45 Third Place aka the Carroll Cardens Atrocity. GMAP P*Shark DOB


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  1. Anon 1:59 (geeze, can i get a handle here or typekey, I hate the anon stuff).

    Points well taken.

    No, not from Des Moines…but due to my supposed NIMBY posts (remember folks it’s “NIMB” now), I get told I should abandon the Boro…Bklyn for 20 years. Though summers in Southwestern Iowa on my Grandfolks lake front home were nice 😉 More bass fishin’ I could do in a lifetime.

    Checked out that vid, yikes, what a monster!

  2. This place had been for sale all last fall. Did anyone buy it. Might be the reason for maxing out the far if they paid out the wazoo for it. FAR related… any apartments directly above bars are pretty much unlivable space.

  3. So basically, lost, your fight belongs at the doors of the LPC…oh wait…this stretch of PS is not landmarked is it.

    Well…we should just landmark every single block we can just so contextualization is controlled one building at a time, and everyone decides to leave New York because it’s “design by committee” everywhere you look and nothing gets built.

    Unfortunately, proper use of context, while I agree with a few of the comments you make above about this particular building, is what separates the boy architects/developers from the men. But there is no law that prohibits boys from building.

    And yes, sometimes stucco and glass, imho, can benefit the original building by making the its beauty stand on its own and not forcing it to meld with an addition that will most likely never blend in nor add any porportional value.

    And by the way, if you indeed moved from Des Moines, I say…”Good move, and don’t even think about going back!”

  4. anon 1:03

    Libertarinas unite!

    My comment was meant that this particular maxing of the FAR, regardless of style, is totally out of context not only with the neighborhood, but the building as well. Develop all you want, but why so big? But, that’s the name of the game, right?

    Too bad. I am all for reuse, but this is a beautiful turn-of-the-century brick/brownstone building. Did it really need such a large and strange add-on?

    The sloping modern rood addition and wrap around might work on a more modern structure. but, I’ll bet this will be a glass & stucco job. Not really befitting the original structure, no?

    And please, no “move back to Des Moines” comments…we can and should talk contextual aesthetics when it comes to reuse.

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