Update on the Lefferts Hotel?
We spent a lot of time talking about the problem-ridden Lefferts Hotel last summer and we haven’t heard much talk in the neighborhood since. According to one commenter In last week’s discussion of the near-by Broken Angel, things have not improved: The stipulation agreement entered into by the City and the Prince Hotel Group is…
We spent a lot of time talking about the problem-ridden Lefferts Hotel last summer and we haven’t heard much talk in the neighborhood since. According to one commenter In last week’s discussion of the near-by Broken Angel, things have not improved:
The stipulation agreement entered into by the City and the Prince Hotel Group is killing the Lefferts Hotel; he can’t make any money as a legitimate business concern. The place is dead and appears on the brink of shutting down. At the same time, property values are soaring all around the hotel and this section of Clinton Hill. If there was every a good time to get Mr. Fried to sell this beautiful building it is now.
What can other residents of Lefferts Place tell us about recent problems with the hotel? Why wouldn’t the owner, Moses Fried, be dying to sell? He could make a lot of dough and free himself of numerous headaches.
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“Why the fuck would a biggot live on Lefferts Place?”
You should know. Enlighten us.
11:29 you forgot to mention reforming the mugger by getting him into pimping or dealing which is easy even if you don’t have a place like Prince Lefferts Hotel nearby
Why the fuck would a biggot live on Lefferts Place? Its a black neighborhood. Biggots like to live around other like minded biggots.
“Okay. I agree with those solutions (more social services, etc). I don’t see how they are in contradiction with shutting down venues for illegal activity, however.”
I didn’t say they were in contradiction. I simply said that moving the problem around from one location to another is futile. And it is.
“….potentially reflects an unfortunate assumption that poor and black peeople aren’t able to work to improve their own neighborhood.”
I certainly haven’t made such an assumption. I’ve assumed that poor and black people are just as susceptible as anyone else to unfortunately pseudo-solutions to serious social problems.
“And yes, closing a whorehouse in a residential neighborhood, is an improvement. I simply disagree that such a closure isn’t an incremental improvement.”
I agree. It is an improvement–for you. Not for some other unfortunate souls, though.
“Now I am off to try to get a client back into residential treatment rather than be sentenced to 3.5 years in state prison.”
That’s more like it! There may be hope for humanity yet!
11:22 you forgot to mention reforming the mugger by getting him into pimping or dealing which is easy if you have a place like Prince Lefferts Hotel nearby
I’ve got it. Wet the sidewalks. It will ice over and the crackies will slip and break their necks. HA-HA that would be hillarious. Stupid crack heads
Okay. I agree with those solutions (more social services, etc). I don’t see how they are in contradiction with shutting down venues for illegal activity, however. I think there is some false dichotomy here. Perhaps it is based upon an honest misunderstanding of the demographics and motivations of the community activists on Lefferts who have worked so hard to close the hotel. Perhaps some of you really think they are “yuppie scum” who care only for their equity. That is simply inaccurate, and as an previous poster said, potentially reflects an unfortunate assumption that poor and black peeople aren’t able to work to improve their own neighborhood. And yes, closing a whorehouse in a residential neighborhood, is an improvement. I simply disagree that such a closure isn’t an incremental improvement.
Now I am off to try to get a client back into residential treatment rather than be sentenced to 3.5 years in state prison.
“It seems to me by your argument I shouldn’t turn my light on at night, because it might push a mugger to another block.”
It seems to me by your argument I can reform the mugger by putting him on a bus to Bed Stuy.
“Your assumptions that only white folks want to have high property values and run the scum out of the neighborhood are ignorant.”
The only assumption I’ve made is that people of all races frequently succumb to the temptation to pass the buck to others.
“Cleaning up your block is not passing the buck.”
Cleaning up your block is not necessarily passing the buck, but closing the Lefferts Hotel most certainly is passing the buck.
“It’s a tired argument.”
If it seems tired, maybe that’s because you lack reading comprehension.
“Your simple like Bush. Go get your thug on so you can keep our block shitty so no one will call the cops on you”
Your block will be shitty so long as bigots like you continue to live on it.