Scaffolding Goes Up on Old Fulton
Following up on Wednesday’s story about a row of historic properties on Old Fulton Street threatened by neglect, Dumbo NYC yesterday posted an image of scaffolding being erected in front of numbers 9, 11, 13, and 15, all of which have been issued full vacate orders. We biked by this morning to check out the…
Following up on Wednesday’s story about a row of historic properties on Old Fulton Street threatened by neglect, Dumbo NYC yesterday posted an image of scaffolding being erected in front of numbers 9, 11, 13, and 15, all of which have been issued full vacate orders. We biked by this morning to check out the progress, captured in the photo above.
Scaffolding Going Up on Old Fulton Street [Dumbo NYC]
Full Vacate Order at 9 Fulton Street [Dumbo NYC]
Row of Old Fulton Buildings at Risk [Brownstoner]
i believe developers of 4 water bought site from someone else.
Wasn’t 4 Water Street the same scenario as 11-13-15 Old Fulton Street? Demolition by neglect, then the owner got to build new construction, instead of renovating the existing building.
I heard different, but could well be wrong. I was told severe neighborhood opposition held him up so long he decided to sell. But you could well be right.
Very interesting about 4 Water. Took about four years to build 14 apartments…. of whatever it is…. ridiculous
The agency is overwhelmed, you say not?
Sorry, Chris, ain’t buyin’ it. Michael got all his approvals but decided to flip the properties instead of proceeding to construction.
Like my reaction to people who buy buildings with rent regulated apartments and later whine about the balance sheet, I have no sympathy for any of the recent owners of these properties. Purchase price needs to reflect reality. Anyone who didn’t know the zoning, the landmark designation, the height limitation under the bridge and the condition of the buildings didn’t do their due diligence. If they knew these things and over-paid, they have no one to blame but themselves.
chrishavens, In this case the Landmarks Commission is in the process of bringing the owners to court for demolition by neglect, staffing issues or no.
Did you know that one of the best paths to putting residential uses in a manufacturing zone is through Landmarks? They have this process called 74-711 through which buildings like the Eagle Warehouse and 4 Water street, both nearby, have been redeveloped for residential use. It has also been the mechanism that has allowed much of SoHo to become residential as well.
You are the one who needs to bone up a bit on the ins and outs of land use regs and the role of the LPC.
Minard, issue is radical regs and opposition from Heights prevented previous owner from renovating as resi during market peak. Would have been done already if not so much opposition from locals who thought it should stay commercial. Absurd.
And ‘do just fine’ under landmark designation? who are you talking to? agency was understaffed five years ago, everyone says they are a nightmare due to staffing levels, single decision makers, and no appeals process no wonder homeowners ignore regs and reface properties w/o filing
minard, please talk to more architects and builders who deal daily with LP agency before you say that.
When one sees valuable buildings in prime locations in this sort of condition, the fault usually lies with the owners. Whether due to insanity, family feud, unsettled estates, what have you.
Tens of thousands of buildings do just fine under local land-use regs and landmark designation.
Apple Store.
***Bid half off peak comps***
Chris, in spite of whatever action the community may have taken, the previous owner got approvals at BSA and LPC and then flipped the properties.
If anything, the buildings are rotting because of the zoning, not the landmark protections. The buildings were (and remain) designed for residential use but the neighborhood is zoned for manufacturing. Why didn’t someone go to the BSA sooner?