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  1. DeLepp, there is a kind of charming, dorky, Quaker vibe there (food no good, no booze until recently, no TVs ). The retreat itself is spectacular from a scenic perspective. The hikes and walks are wonderful but not to pay top money. Staying at a motel nearby would be perfectly fine and then just get a day pass.

  2. “I mean our bodies are really amazing machines – I mean AMAZING and I guess I just believe something bigger than us had a hand in coming up with that idea!”

    gem, the theory of evolution is not necessarily inconsistent with that. No shame in thinking that way. Impossible to prove or disprove, of course.

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