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*rob* I am having humus and thought of you
lech, nice to see you’re off your meds again and ranting about stuff you deliberately misdescribe. If veggie libels laws applied, you’d be in trouble.
rob, I’d think as one who actually has a dog you presumably love, you’d have some feeling for animal suffering. Organic applied to animals means *some* measure of non-cruelty. At least for that, support it.
just because there’s no ‘strawberry’ in that yogurt does not mean it’s not got better, healthier ingredients. that’s what organic is about.
>’A lot of ‘organic’ farming does more harm than use of technology.’ cite!!
I really don’t understand how a group of relatively wealthy (discounting one or two), normally savvy, well read and intelligent people cannot emphathize with the inhumane and cruel conditions of animals in CAFEs. Isn’t it worth a few tens of dollars more a month (I figure I spend less than $50 extra for organic for 2) to ameliorate that? Not to mention it’s healthier for you. Is it perfect? No, but it’s better than the alternative.
I’m no fan of ‘big organic’ or ‘organic washing’ or for sure all those misleading claims out there, but it should be patently clear that the current ‘technology’ of ‘farming’ is unsustainable, cruel and introduces all kinds of questionable substances into the food stream… Hormones. Antibiotics. Fertilizer residue.
And there are people here worried about disposing off a few square feet of potentially lead-based paint residue. Incredible.
Scenes From An Italian Restaurant is such a classic.
Is this what it feels like to be tweeting?
Uh, Rob…it was snark.
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people like dave aren’t the problem. it’s those damn fat-cat teachers.
it’s not teachers. SOMEONE has to babysit all the wretched crotchfruit. and technically teachers are paid less when you consider how many students they have, they make like 40 cents on an hour on each one! would you pay a babysitter 40 cents an hour to mind your child? or 80 cents an hour to mind two of them? no. it’s the nurses!
KEEP HEALTHCARE COSTS LOW – REFUSE MEDICAL TREATMENT FROM NURSES!
*rob*
“Someone could make the arguement that investing in the two companies Dave recommended would be the moral and ethical thing to do. The infusion of capital would allow the company to meet the demand for equipment needed during the clean-up and rebuilding process in Japan.â€
That would be true if more stock was being offered, but I’m thinking he’s buying existing securities.
“If you think the people who manage your 401K or IRAs don’t make decisions that might not be always benefitting the common good, you’re living in a big bubble.â€
That’s the first non-gratuitous point you’ve made. The rest were off-base but with this, you’re right — if I want to put my money where my mouth is, I should shift my investments from where they are into the socially responsible funds like Denton mentioned earlier (even though they aren’t perfect)
“denton — what’s wrong with pectin in organic yogurt? ”
Are you cooking with pectin tonight?
“If it is smooth European-style flavored yogurt, why would you expect to see whole strawberries instead of strawberry juice?”
Slopey, I didn’t say I expected to see whole strawberries. What I said was that there wasn’t a single strawberry in it. If I was making yogurt at home, I would take strawberries and mash them by hand, or machine, and then I would put it all in the yogurt.
What is in this yogurt is ‘strawberry juice from concentrate’. So we have some industrial process that picks the strawberries, squashes them, puts them thru a centrifuge, an evaporator, perhaps heats and pasteurizes, then it all goes in a 55 gallon drum somewhere. If in fact somewhere is even in the US.
And because the concentrate is not ‘red’ enough, we have to add food dyes. But so what, they’re ‘organic’.