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benson- I posted my opinion and ideas on the situation in general and you told me I was making a campaign speech. Although we agree to disagree, we were basically not having the same conversation. We were having an apples and avocadoes conversation. To me campaign sloganeering is sound bytes- mostly nasty and misleading sound bytes.
Folks do want to talk ideas and issues- but, especially regarding what wasder is saying, somehow the Republicans have to understand that the past 8 years and the way they ran the country is not going to be forgotten so easily. They left scars. Huge scars. Even the last presidential campaign- while Obama was talking policies and issues, McCain and Palin were talking Ayers and Wright and that true moron Joe the Plumber.
> “Why bother? You are upset with TEAM Bear”
Silly rabbit, I am Team Bear.
Benson, I hear you about the difference between campaigning and ideas/governing principles. Many people, myself included sometimes, find it hard to give up the fight of the campaign.
in re issues, the governing priorities of the Obama administration as spelled out in yesterday’s budget is a prime target.
What- prodigal son did go after rob.
I dunno, DIBS, rob certainly needs an editor sometimes and from what he said later it’s pretty clear his perspective is rather different than how most of us took it. I guess it goes back to the old discussions we used have about code words, and how we insinuate or infer things from them. For me, I am maybe overly sensitive about them. When I was married I got to experience it a lot from white people who didn’t know I was married to a black man. Or get asked very strange questions about what was it like to be in an interracial marriage. Pretty much the same as being married to a white guy, I’m guessing. Your ear gets attuned and sometimes your perspective gets a little too biased.
That said, yes I thought rob’s statement was racist but in view of his explanation- especially his comment about his mother- it may be my misperception.
Wasder;
Political campaigns are hardball, and caricaturing is one of the tools of choice. That is what hardball politics is all about. My question, therefore, which I asked yesterday is: do folks want to discuss issues and ideas, or do they want to engage in “campaign sloganeering”?
“If you want to have a civil conversation with me, I will have one with you and this goes for EVERYONE!!!!”
Glad to hear it What. It must be said though that the dialogue has to be two way. IF someone asks you a reasonable question you are obliged to answer.
TheWhat, Rob is indeed 100% racist.
The other day he said gary coleman was a weak actor, nell carter was fat, and sammy davis jr. an overrated singer (hey, that makes him antisemitic too!).
“Is this a discussion of ideas, or caricature? This goes to Wasder’s point about the tone of the debate here.”
Benson, the only thing I can say about this is that there was an awful lot of ridiculous characterization of liberals during the Bush years (think John Kerry is a French elitist). It is hard for some people to resist the temptation to retaliate when the shoe is on the other foot.
“Here’s my question? Are you ever interested in sharing any other advice or knowledge to people on this board?”
I did and some times everything is OK but crap like this come up…
“The above rant illustrates my point about the phoniness of the What persona. Notice the spelling and grammar of the 11:55 post. Does this sound like the more typical spelling and syntax challenged screes?”
See why bother???? Snakeslope is a Asshead. I don’t have any dialogue with him but here we go! Did I attack this man today and don’t say anything about the past, I’m talking about today.
It’s not about The What, it’s about me calling the explosion of the Mutant Asset Bubble!
Why bother? You are upset with TEAM Bear and The What because this was the worst week so far in 2009. Condo developments are going Tango Uniform! Plus Whuh was right about the Asshats….
The What
Someday this war is gonna end…