To horribly summarize, and students of philosophy please excuse me, Seneca observed the frustation people feel based on an optimistic and unsupportable belief that the world is fundamentally just, that they themselves are just, and that they will be rewarded accordingly. When of course fortune intervenes and everything goes pear-shaped for them/or others get what they themselves want, it becomes an anger at why me, a lot of “its not fair” psychology (because it was meant to be fair etc).
He recognized this silliness and invented, for want of a better word, stoicism. Your friend CB seems like a missed-opportunity world is unfair rant-against-others type hoping for indivduals to fail.
As you know, I’m team bear, and so is he, but his barely hidden bitterness …..
cobble…beginning in y’day’s OT we have all decided to try and get along more with the What, if he’s amenable. THL, rightly so, says it won’t last becasue some of us (not sure who whe would be referring to) enjoy the fight. I think one of the points being made is that the fight is Ok as long as we drop the name calling, etc.
Also, it was revealed today, that BRG swallows. I suspect others do to (like myself) but none (except me) have admitted to it…so far.
cobblehiller!!!! there you are. Finally! Ok, if you can, start with yesterday’s Open Thread. You will understand all of this discussion if you do that. Don’t be intimidated by the almost 300 comments. I referenced you a couple of times (in a good way). Then continue with this one.
I think you would have had a lot to add yesterday. But you still can here.
wasder, dibs, benson, et al, catch me up – What have i missed here? Was there some kind of dust up? [I’m out of town, I have limited web access – I feel…so…so…so out of touch!The horror! ; )]
let me distract everyone from BRG’s embarrassment with a poo story even bigger than rob’s. Scouring the NYTimes online archive for nonsense like I normally do I read an 1800s article where the NYC board of health was investigating complaints of an abominable stench coming from a boat docked at the Navy Yard. The poor investigator reported back to his superiors that there was an open barge overloaded and full to the brim with human “nightsoil” which was used in those days for making fertilizer. Apparently, the workers had stopped transferring it and the pile was rotting (even more) and spilling juice into the river and onto the dock, and needed emptying. There was also another barge sunk, with a similar cargo, that became exposed at low tide. There was some complaints about rendering pig fat too but that wasn’t so interesting.
Now, no more poo stories.
Hey, cobblehiller! I wondered where you were. Anything on the job front?
To horribly summarize, and students of philosophy please excuse me, Seneca observed the frustation people feel based on an optimistic and unsupportable belief that the world is fundamentally just, that they themselves are just, and that they will be rewarded accordingly. When of course fortune intervenes and everything goes pear-shaped for them/or others get what they themselves want, it becomes an anger at why me, a lot of “its not fair” psychology (because it was meant to be fair etc).
He recognized this silliness and invented, for want of a better word, stoicism. Your friend CB seems like a missed-opportunity world is unfair rant-against-others type hoping for indivduals to fail.
As you know, I’m team bear, and so is he, but his barely hidden bitterness …..
cobble…beginning in y’day’s OT we have all decided to try and get along more with the What, if he’s amenable. THL, rightly so, says it won’t last becasue some of us (not sure who whe would be referring to) enjoy the fight. I think one of the points being made is that the fight is Ok as long as we drop the name calling, etc.
Also, it was revealed today, that BRG swallows. I suspect others do to (like myself) but none (except me) have admitted to it…so far.
That’s it, in a nutshell.
cobblehiller!!!! there you are. Finally! Ok, if you can, start with yesterday’s Open Thread. You will understand all of this discussion if you do that. Don’t be intimidated by the almost 300 comments. I referenced you a couple of times (in a good way). Then continue with this one.
I think you would have had a lot to add yesterday. But you still can here.
wasder, dibs, benson, et al, catch me up – What have i missed here? Was there some kind of dust up? [I’m out of town, I have limited web access – I feel…so…so…so out of touch!The horror! ; )]
>”I’ll have the Borsalino cleaned and steamed for the get-together.”
Sounds like you might want to wait until after.
ditto…i didn’t understand the Seneca remark you made.
Nothing better in the world than pork fat!!!! And crispy skin, yuuuummmmmm. Poo I can do without.
let me distract everyone from BRG’s embarrassment with a poo story even bigger than rob’s. Scouring the NYTimes online archive for nonsense like I normally do I read an 1800s article where the NYC board of health was investigating complaints of an abominable stench coming from a boat docked at the Navy Yard. The poor investigator reported back to his superiors that there was an open barge overloaded and full to the brim with human “nightsoil” which was used in those days for making fertilizer. Apparently, the workers had stopped transferring it and the pile was rotting (even more) and spilling juice into the river and onto the dock, and needed emptying. There was also another barge sunk, with a similar cargo, that became exposed at low tide. There was some complaints about rendering pig fat too but that wasn’t so interesting.
Now, no more poo stories.