so now I have lost track of what Jewish holiday it is. must be the a.d.d. OT disorder mentioned above. (…looking at calendar.) See that *next* weekend is Yom Kippur. So that is why there are tv shows now about the war of Yom Kippur. I just saw one. The then pres. Nixon sent fire-power to Golda Meir who called him at 3 am for help. Her last ditch effort. That Golda was quite a woman! No face lifts there. A woman with a purpose. Seeing her on tv a couple of nights ago brought this to mind.
OK cmu, I have to run so I’ll do this very quickly.
Many, but not all, “green” consumer decisions reflect a complete failure to understand secondary consequences, or what economists would call reaction curves. Your decisions do not have the simplistic matematical consequence that you think they do. If you use less oil, that doesn’t mean less oil is used in the world. At a micro level, when you decide you’re not going to use buy a twinkie because you’re afraid that using oil to make twinkies hurts all the little plants and animals, that frees up just enough oil from the global supply for some kid in India to buy a twinkie. You have changed nothing at all. Your decision had zero consequence. In fact, since they pollute a lot more when they make twinkies in India, you have probably made the world a worse place. So good for you. At a macro level, a reduction in energy use by the US will just reduce prices and increase consumption somewhere else, which just hurts the US at someone else’s expense.
You make the same predictable mistakes that people make when they talk about tax policy. When you change taxes, behavior changes. You don’t get 10% more tax revenue from a 10% increase in taxes. In fact, you might get less revenue if you increase taxes, much like your unwittingly giving a kid in India a twinkie.
We will use up all non-renewable and cheap energy sources. It is completely inevitable. You can’t stop that any more than you can stop grass from using up a handful of fertilizer thrown on a lawn.
As for my credibility on things green, when you can demonstrate to me that your understanding of the issues extends beyond what you read on some pamphlet you picked up at the food coop you will have license to sit at the grow-ups’ table and say things like that.
I don’t mind the water saving shower heads. it’s the water efficient toilet bowls that suck. a 2 flusher turns into a 5 flusher. that can’t be saving water!
I don’t mind the water saving shower heads. it’s the water efficient toilet bowls that suck. a 2 flusher turns into a 5 flusher. that can’t be saving water!
I just bet $50 the Washington Redskins will finish dead last this year.
“I like it when Lechacal sounds like Hannibal Lecter.”
Hannibal? He sounds like a bombastic windbag to me!
so now I have lost track of what Jewish holiday it is. must be the a.d.d. OT disorder mentioned above. (…looking at calendar.) See that *next* weekend is Yom Kippur. So that is why there are tv shows now about the war of Yom Kippur. I just saw one. The then pres. Nixon sent fire-power to Golda Meir who called him at 3 am for help. Her last ditch effort. That Golda was quite a woman! No face lifts there. A woman with a purpose. Seeing her on tv a couple of nights ago brought this to mind.
I like it when Lechacal sounds like Hannibal Lecter.
OK cmu, I have to run so I’ll do this very quickly.
Many, but not all, “green” consumer decisions reflect a complete failure to understand secondary consequences, or what economists would call reaction curves. Your decisions do not have the simplistic matematical consequence that you think they do. If you use less oil, that doesn’t mean less oil is used in the world. At a micro level, when you decide you’re not going to use buy a twinkie because you’re afraid that using oil to make twinkies hurts all the little plants and animals, that frees up just enough oil from the global supply for some kid in India to buy a twinkie. You have changed nothing at all. Your decision had zero consequence. In fact, since they pollute a lot more when they make twinkies in India, you have probably made the world a worse place. So good for you. At a macro level, a reduction in energy use by the US will just reduce prices and increase consumption somewhere else, which just hurts the US at someone else’s expense.
You make the same predictable mistakes that people make when they talk about tax policy. When you change taxes, behavior changes. You don’t get 10% more tax revenue from a 10% increase in taxes. In fact, you might get less revenue if you increase taxes, much like your unwittingly giving a kid in India a twinkie.
We will use up all non-renewable and cheap energy sources. It is completely inevitable. You can’t stop that any more than you can stop grass from using up a handful of fertilizer thrown on a lawn.
As for my credibility on things green, when you can demonstrate to me that your understanding of the issues extends beyond what you read on some pamphlet you picked up at the food coop you will have license to sit at the grow-ups’ table and say things like that.
lol dh. maybe it’s time for metimucil
*rob*
By dirty_hipster on September 9, 2010 1:58 PM
I don’t mind the water saving shower heads. it’s the water efficient toilet bowls that suck. a 2 flusher turns into a 5 flusher. that can’t be saving water!
Stay away from the curried eggs next time.
my friend just gutted his loo and put in a toto dual flush, dual flush it is, so much for being green.
I don’t mind the water saving shower heads. it’s the water efficient toilet bowls that suck. a 2 flusher turns into a 5 flusher. that can’t be saving water!