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Pete, you cannot separate your own consumption of oil from the consequences of oil exploration. Stop using oil and then you will be on moral high ground. This spill is your fault.
Benson said it extremely well – there is no such thing as zero risk. If you demand oil by consuming it, the “corporations” you profess to hate will go find it. And every time they drill, there is risk. It is absolutely inevitable that spills will happen. And when they do, every time, it will be your fault. Unless you stop using oil, that is.
i look at the whole BP fiasco as , well mistakes happen in life. that’s just life. i do feel bad for the birds tho 🙁 there would be no progress in life if we tried to avoid mistakes at all costs.
I wonder how anyone can reach a conclusion on the cause of this issue at this point in time. The investigation is still underway.
As for the issue of preparation: it is the federal government’s responsibility to prevent the damage to the shoreline, and that is what Obama is taking the heat for. How long did it take to deliver the booms down there? How are they processing Governer Jindal’s request to build sand berm sto prevent the flow to the marshes?
benson, you’re 10:42 post was extremely well said. BP will, and should, pay heavily for the damage. But that’s just allocation of the losses caused by the spill (BP gets the profit, they also have to pay for the losses). Who is to “blame” in the bigger sense? Those who use oil and those who prohibit drilling for oil in less dangerous places.
“Biff: I don’t know what the “Death Star” is, but from your description, I am ready to sign up. Only catch is the ex-wife, who demands more money than a TARP Bank executive for maintenance.”
DCB, may the force be with you
(since it seems the divorce was against you)
no one forces anyone to drill anywhere. The corporation decided it wanted to drill there to make more money.
The oil/energy lobby fought for years for less regulation (for safety of drilling and of workers) and got it.
This is what we got in return.
From the Army Corps of Engineers website….boy, you guys are cranky today. Back to work…
Who We Are
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers environmental programs fall under the umbrella of the Environmental Community of Practice, which provides the public with a central access to news and information about the environment. The Corps supports or manages numerous environmental initiatives including Ecosystem Restoration, Formerly Used Defense Sites, Environmental Stewardship, support to EPA Superfund and Brownfields programs, Abandoned Mine Lands, Formerly Utilized Sites Remedial Action Program, Base Realignment and Closure 2005, and Regulatory. The Corps’ environmental programs support the warfighter and military installations worldwide as well as the Corps’ public recreation facilities throughout the country.
The Environmental Community of Practice is comprised of potentially several thousand Corps employees – anyone who shares an interest in the environmental programs the Corps manages or supports is a potential member. One of the community’s main missions is to serve as the champion for integrating and implementing the Environmental Operating Principles throughout the Corps. The Environmental Community of Practice is a cross integration between civil works and military environmental projects and programs.
Gulf crisis, the blame can be spread just as much as the oil is spreading. The new American collective doesn’t understand sacrifices and seems to have missed a lesson on consequences. Just like the current wars, the average american has sacrifised nothing, still driving suvs and living on 22st and still building 7000 sq foot mcmansions for 3 people. If you want cheap energy then plan on accepting the risks that come along with it.
Pete, you cannot separate your own consumption of oil from the consequences of oil exploration. Stop using oil and then you will be on moral high ground. This spill is your fault.
Benson said it extremely well – there is no such thing as zero risk. If you demand oil by consuming it, the “corporations” you profess to hate will go find it. And every time they drill, there is risk. It is absolutely inevitable that spills will happen. And when they do, every time, it will be your fault. Unless you stop using oil, that is.
i look at the whole BP fiasco as , well mistakes happen in life. that’s just life. i do feel bad for the birds tho 🙁 there would be no progress in life if we tried to avoid mistakes at all costs.
*rob*
Arkady;
I wonder how anyone can reach a conclusion on the cause of this issue at this point in time. The investigation is still underway.
As for the issue of preparation: it is the federal government’s responsibility to prevent the damage to the shoreline, and that is what Obama is taking the heat for. How long did it take to deliver the booms down there? How are they processing Governer Jindal’s request to build sand berm sto prevent the flow to the marshes?
benson, you’re 10:42 post was extremely well said. BP will, and should, pay heavily for the damage. But that’s just allocation of the losses caused by the spill (BP gets the profit, they also have to pay for the losses). Who is to “blame” in the bigger sense? Those who use oil and those who prohibit drilling for oil in less dangerous places.
“Biff: I don’t know what the “Death Star” is, but from your description, I am ready to sign up. Only catch is the ex-wife, who demands more money than a TARP Bank executive for maintenance.”
DCB, may the force be with you
(since it seems the divorce was against you)
“Gotta get myself to a heifer stroll!”
I can walk by you a few times.
no one forces anyone to drill anywhere. The corporation decided it wanted to drill there to make more money.
The oil/energy lobby fought for years for less regulation (for safety of drilling and of workers) and got it.
This is what we got in return.
From the Army Corps of Engineers website….boy, you guys are cranky today. Back to work…
Who We Are
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers environmental programs fall under the umbrella of the Environmental Community of Practice, which provides the public with a central access to news and information about the environment. The Corps supports or manages numerous environmental initiatives including Ecosystem Restoration, Formerly Used Defense Sites, Environmental Stewardship, support to EPA Superfund and Brownfields programs, Abandoned Mine Lands, Formerly Utilized Sites Remedial Action Program, Base Realignment and Closure 2005, and Regulatory. The Corps’ environmental programs support the warfighter and military installations worldwide as well as the Corps’ public recreation facilities throughout the country.
The Environmental Community of Practice is comprised of potentially several thousand Corps employees – anyone who shares an interest in the environmental programs the Corps manages or supports is a potential member. One of the community’s main missions is to serve as the champion for integrating and implementing the Environmental Operating Principles throughout the Corps. The Environmental Community of Practice is a cross integration between civil works and military environmental projects and programs.
Gulf crisis, the blame can be spread just as much as the oil is spreading. The new American collective doesn’t understand sacrifices and seems to have missed a lesson on consequences. Just like the current wars, the average american has sacrifised nothing, still driving suvs and living on 22st and still building 7000 sq foot mcmansions for 3 people. If you want cheap energy then plan on accepting the risks that come along with it.