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  1. benson,

    not true,
    etson clearly stated that he came to similar conclusions
    although, by other thought processes.

    and snappy also stated that she agreed with much of what
    ayn rand had to say,

    and I brough her into the discussion only for comedic effect as a sort of “will to power” counterpoint to “volunteerism”.
    I don’t think anyone will dispute her stature as an important 20th century thinker.

  2. “Note that no one actually debates her ideas above. ”

    Because we all know what her ideas are, we’ve read the book, seen the movie, got the t-shirt, and made up our minds.

    And it’s the OT, created as a place to goof off, f*ck around and try not to get to crazy serious.

    So lech is right, and you are right, now clam up and play!

    “Poets and Playrights brag about their Brecht’s life.”

    Nice one, legion!

  3. Legion —
    Now you’re conflating TWO different issues… not a good way to conduct yourself in a debate. Short-term vs. long-term.

    If you read the article from the Economist I posted rather than just responding immediately, you would have seen I was sharing nuance. Sharing the notion that a debt ratio of 90% of GDP may not be the end of the world. I’m not suggesting the United States is on the right trajectory! This is what the CBO report you shared is talking about…. the *projected* debt ratio.

    I would also ask my question again, The $54 billion is 0.3% of our GDP to maintain the economic health of a major partner in the world economy, with almost no risk of default. Does that sound so rough?

    Where do you think our economy would be if Europe collapsed? (more so than it already has)

  4. Let me leave you with this little Diddy!

    if everything is “improving” then why 40 million Americans are on Food Stamps???!!!!

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6465E220100507

    Food-stamp tally nears 40 million, sets record

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Nearly 40 million Americans received food stamps — the latest in an ever-higher string of record enrollment that dates from December 2008 and the U.S. recession, according to a government update.
    Food stamps are the primary federal anti-hunger program, helping poor people buy food. Enrollment is highest during times of economic distress. The jobless rate was 9.9 percent, the government said on Friday.

    The Agriculture Department said 39.68 million people, or 1 in 8 Americans, were enrolled for food stamps during February, an increase of 260,000 from January. USDA updated its figures on Wednesday.

    “This is the highest share of the U.S. population on SNAP/food stamps,” said the anti-hunger group Food Research and Action Center, using the new name for food stamps, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). “Research suggests that one in three eligible people are not receiving … benefits.”
    Enrollment has set a record each month since reaching 31.78 million in December 2008. USDA estimates enrollment will average 40.5 million people this fiscal year, which ends Sept 30, at a cost of up to $59 billion. For fiscal 2011, average enrollment is forecast for 43.3 million people.

    The What (You’re Welcome!)

    Someday this war is gonna end…

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