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A good idea for the synagogues would be to erect some sort of large sheet that would block off view of the synagogues themselves and leave those nutballs yelling at a black screen, unable to see the worshipers at all and shielding the worshipers from having to even see their disgusting signs.
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“the difference tho ken is that i dont think these freaks even have a leg to stand on in ANY way” Rob, Yikes! Did Hitler? Yikes!
oh ack! that’s not what i meant. 🙁 at all. i mean they dont have a leg to stand on as in, they dont have a shot in hell to gain any kind of following here in this day and age like unforuntately hitler did back in the day. i explained it in my next sentence jessi!!
…although if it’s on Craigslist it’s almost certainly not my place. Landlords listed it with like 3 or 4 different brokers. I wouldn’t say deal of the century although the asking keeps dropping and is now $575/mo less than what we were paying. As a sign of the times the place has been on the market for well over a month, lots of lookers but no takers. When I rented the place I grabbed it literally minutes after it hit the market and at the time it was one of the only liveable 3 beds on the market. The rental market in the slope is obviously much, much softer that August 2007.
I visited Talinn as a teen in 1981. Must be much different. A friend and I had wandered away from our tour and kept trying to eat on our own in restaurants and they all refused us and said we had to go and eat with our group. Very weird. Did they think we were spies? Did they think KGB would think we were spies and would get tehm in trouble for having us there?
I remember there was a little cave dug out of a massive rock at the base of the hill of the old city that served spiced wine. It really was a cave.
Old Talinn looked like a middle-European village from the 17th century. Very cute and well-preserved. Wonder if it still looks like that or has been destroyed by oligarch developers.
benson,
I really respect rabbi Bachman’s call for non-engagement but entirely sympathize with ken’s anger about this. While these crazies are entitled to their beliefs, they are going to be creating a confrontational situation outside a synagogue on the holiest shabbat of the year (think Sunday mass right before Christmas) and it is some kid’s bat mitzvah at the same time. I really don’t care whether they are threatening violence, the protest is despicable. The notion of one group trying to impose its idea of god and holiness on another in an angry way is despicable to me, and I have a few thousand years of history to back me up on that. I imagine that is what is driving ken’s anger. I think non-confrontation is probably the way to go and the key is to keep enough of the entrace free and clear to that the holiness of the day for the congregation and family members can remain relatively intact. Confrontation would make this harder. Hopefully this will fizzle.
kens, I doubt they will target synagogues in Brighton as I imagine none are particularly well-known for supporting gay rights. Not that they are bigoted, just not necessarily hotbeds of liberal theology or activity.
A good idea for the synagogues would be to erect some sort of large sheet that would block off view of the synagogues themselves and leave those nutballs yelling at a black screen, unable to see the worshipers at all and shielding the worshipers from having to even see their disgusting signs.
quote:
“the difference tho ken is that i dont think these freaks even have a leg to stand on in ANY way” Rob, Yikes! Did Hitler? Yikes!
oh ack! that’s not what i meant. 🙁 at all. i mean they dont have a leg to stand on as in, they dont have a shot in hell to gain any kind of following here in this day and age like unforuntately hitler did back in the day. i explained it in my next sentence jessi!!
*rob*
…although if it’s on Craigslist it’s almost certainly not my place. Landlords listed it with like 3 or 4 different brokers. I wouldn’t say deal of the century although the asking keeps dropping and is now $575/mo less than what we were paying. As a sign of the times the place has been on the market for well over a month, lots of lookers but no takers. When I rented the place I grabbed it literally minutes after it hit the market and at the time it was one of the only liveable 3 beds on the market. The rental market in the slope is obviously much, much softer that August 2007.
“See my post up top (2nd post in today’s OT)”
Snappy, for a second I read that as “post op top”!
Thought you might have had a gender change and didn’t tell us.
JB,
I visited Talinn as a teen in 1981. Must be much different. A friend and I had wandered away from our tour and kept trying to eat on our own in restaurants and they all refused us and said we had to go and eat with our group. Very weird. Did they think we were spies? Did they think KGB would think we were spies and would get tehm in trouble for having us there?
I remember there was a little cave dug out of a massive rock at the base of the hill of the old city that served spiced wine. It really was a cave.
Old Talinn looked like a middle-European village from the 17th century. Very cute and well-preserved. Wonder if it still looks like that or has been destroyed by oligarch developers.
benson,
I really respect rabbi Bachman’s call for non-engagement but entirely sympathize with ken’s anger about this. While these crazies are entitled to their beliefs, they are going to be creating a confrontational situation outside a synagogue on the holiest shabbat of the year (think Sunday mass right before Christmas) and it is some kid’s bat mitzvah at the same time. I really don’t care whether they are threatening violence, the protest is despicable. The notion of one group trying to impose its idea of god and holiness on another in an angry way is despicable to me, and I have a few thousand years of history to back me up on that. I imagine that is what is driving ken’s anger. I think non-confrontation is probably the way to go and the key is to keep enough of the entrace free and clear to that the holiness of the day for the congregation and family members can remain relatively intact. Confrontation would make this harder. Hopefully this will fizzle.
kens, I doubt they will target synagogues in Brighton as I imagine none are particularly well-known for supporting gay rights. Not that they are bigoted, just not necessarily hotbeds of liberal theology or activity.
11217 – email me at lechacal2008 at gmail and I will confirm.
Ok, this is a little more informative:
http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories
/32/38/32_38_gk_beth_elohim_protest.html
11217…VOTE!!! See my post up top (2nd post in today’s OT)
As Thread Monitor for the day, I have to say the car tire theft thread is pretty amusing.