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  1. by the way,
    I love the way “religious right” is used as an epithet in this chat room. It speaks volumes about the liberal inclusion and spirit of plurality in your ideology. I am not religious myself, in fact I am an agnostic. But I respect the need of others to have something to believe in.

    on another note, before you libs here go all nuts on me for being a conservative; check out these eye opening facts;
    The republican party was started by anti-slavery activists. The dems obstructed them for over a hundred years, opposing the civil rights acts after the civil war and enabling the rise of the Jim Crow laws that followed.
    the NAACP was founded by black republicans. The first US senators were black republicans. You’ll be surprised to know that Frederick Douglas was a republican,as was Harriet Tubman, as was Soujourner Truth, as was Booker T. Washington, as was George Washington Carver, as was MLK according to his neice Dr. Alveda King. And yet, you liberals (majority white) try to go all off on the moral highground routine. Please spare me.
    Don’t even get me started on the racist woman who started Planned Parenthood. Look it up if you dare.

  2. BXgrl,
    Semi-joking assessment but just based on observation, of course. As I have said before I like the USA a lot, so no need to be rude.
    Just think that a lot of people I have met are a bit soft when it comes to minor ailments.

  3. bxgrl,
    no need to go all lib-nut on me, I was stating a legitimate fact about the NYTimes and its reporting. The paper was asked not to print certain information in a time of war that might be detirmental to our troops, not an unusual request, but they went ahead anyway. The gave out information on our cell phone monitoring and on our bases in eastern europe. Why? because they have a political agenda, to deny this is myopic and obtuse.
    No I didn’t serve in Iraq. Does this disqualify me from offering an opinion as an American citizen. If you haven’t served as President of the United States, are you excluded from commentary on the basis of not having been there? No, that is censorship my dear, and the left is full of such hypocrisy.
    As far as being a doctor, prove me wrong. why would I lie. I have no cause to lie to you people about my profession, I earned my degree and will not attempt to hide that fact.

  4. I have 2 friends w/ PhDs who work at Rockefeller Inst in research – one makes $40 & one $60 but they love what they do & think it’s worthy science. The woman they bought their (small) apt. from was so amazed by their low income level she didn’t charge them for all her furniture & appliances as she’d intended – she was moving back to Japan.

  5. gemini, its a bit better in private companies like pharmaceutical companies, but the researchers even at top places, like Columbia and Harvard, unless they are high up on the academic ladder, make peanuts. At least it means that the NIH money is being spent on research and not salaries.

  6. etson- gee, thanks for the assessment. Based on your unbiased and educated research? Or anecdotal inference? I might also point out that the lack of health insurance means many people need to use the emergency room because they don’t know if what they have is a minor ailment or not. O the other hand, if this country offends you so much you know what you can do.

  7. Legion,

    I’m not going to get into a Soros vs. Heritage type comparison. You brought up Heritage, let’s talk about them for a moment shall we? Quoting and using Heritage as a source is very telling. You’re not quoting independent sources of information that you have researched. You are specifically taking manipulated info from an organization with a massive well-documented religious right and conservative agenda. The information is patently manipulated and manufactured to support that agenda. There is no way that you will be able to convince me that ANY of their reports are un-biased, objective or free of their agenda.

    Using one’s mind involves getting information from independent and objective sources, and knowing how to tell the difference between objective research and analysis and manufactured spin. You haven’t shown me that you are getting your data from an independent objective review at all by mentioning Heritage.

    No need for sarcasm, merely weakens your arguments.

  8. I have to say this, Legion- based on what little I know about you, we do owe doctors like you thanks. And I really mean that- I know you served in Iraq too. Wish there were more like you (except I would want them to be much more liberal and to the left) 🙂

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