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My 2 cents re illegal immigration – Reagan had the chance to fix it and chose instead to pass it on to future generations.
All I can is that this is just one more issue which undermines trust in how our society operates. One more straw on that camel’s back.
Whatever the “truth” may be, the fact that millions of legal immigrants and citizens PERCEIVE that they are following the rules and getting screwed while someone else gets a “free ride” is just more fuel for the fire that is smoldering.
Add to that resentment over banker bailouts and it won’t be a surprise to see more middle class choose to opt out of what used to be called the rat race and instead go for a smaller nicer lifestyle that, incidentally, will kick in fewer taxes. Just some thoughts…
What’s great about a Bathroom Bidet Sprayer? It’s great because it let’s you win. With a Bathroom Bidet Sprayer you win in so many ways if it was a woman I’d marry it. First off you win by saving money and what in these times is better than that, well ok a bailout may be better but get in line. With these you almost don’t need toilet paper anymore. By almost eliminating the need for toilet paper the savings are immediate and long lasting. Not saying you have to give up toilet paper, you can still use it and even buy the soft stuff without feeling guilty because you will be using so little. Next you win by giving yourself some healthy side benefits namely a lessening of hemorrhoids, should you have them, and the virtual elimination of rectal itch. Now we move onto the fact that you are helping the environment by lowering the amount of toilet paper used and therefore manufactured which saves water, electricity, and pollution. Now there is the hygiene factor and unless you think wiping your hands off with a dry paper towel is cleaner than washing them then you get the point. I think Dr. Oz on Oprah said it best: “if you had pee or poop on your hand, you wouldn’t wipe it off with paper, would you? You’d wash it off” There is the convenience of having such a handy means of washing up with after which at times, say after that big burrito you had at lunch, can get a might messy. That is the main reason why stand alone conventional bidets were invented but they are too expensive and don’t even work as well as the Hand Bidet Sprayer. Lastly there is the least practical but potentially the most influential reason of all……it just feels good. Cleaner, fresher, rejuvenating even. Can you imagine not brushing you teeth after a big meal? I can’t, and I can’t imagine just wiping with dry toilet paper and leaving it at that…..shudder. This is the best thing since the toilet was invented, give it a try. http://www.bathroomsprayers.com
I can’t for the life of me figure out why you went off on me. In my last comments to you I agreed with you that jfb’s posts were bigoted and offered my rationale as to why I didn’t bother to call him on it. I did not accuse you of racism — quite the contrary, I made clear that I was not — but you react as if I did. My only point, with which you seem to disagree, is that it is not class warfare not to jump down the throat of someone who makes a bigoted remark. There are many ways to respond, including not bothering.
It seems pointless to engage in a discussion with you because whenever a conversation has even the slightest chance of moving off square one into a real dialogue, you sabotage it with a gratuitous attack. For all the bravado, I think you operate from a fearful position, fearful of taking the risks required to have a meaningful dialogue and to actually listen and comprehend the positions and reasoning of those with whom you disagree, to the point where you actually make enemies of people who even agree with you on some things.
So go ahead, keep me on mute. I tried to have a dialogue, but dialogue really isn’t what you want. I am always happy to converse with you if it is a real conversation, but I am not going to keep beating my head against a wall.
“So, they’ve got to come up with a way to make money. ANY type of job will do, or some money-making idea of their “own. What makes these kids so special that they shouldn’t have to apply themselves even if it is tough to find work? Scapegoating ANYONE is just an excuse.”
“If they find themselves competing for the LOWEST level of jobs, with illegal immigrants, and haven’t acquired the skills to get ahead, I can’t feel sorry for them.”
Two words: Car wash.”
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Contradicting yourself. In one breath you say ‘what makes these kids so special they shouldn’t apply themselves’. In the next you laud them for trying to get low end jobs and not having acquired the skill sets. Then your grand idea is a Car Wash?
YES! Great idea. that’s exactly how they’ll learn great skills that are real resume builders.
How can you possibly be serious? You’d rather see someone that is in the country illegally, earning the money and sending it out of the country without contributing taxes like you and I get a job delivering pizzas, busing tables or washing dishes or any of those other jobs in a restaurants kitchen instead of some American H.S. kid who is trying to make some money cause his family is strapped. Or how about the guy that got laid off when his company folded, his unemployment is is running out and delivering pies sounds better than not having ZERO dollars coming in to feed his family.
The long held excuse for letting them come and stay in the country was because American’s don’t want those jobs. You know, that is partially true. Most don’t. However, there are those that do. I did. When I was a kid those were the jobs I worked. My first job? Individually wrapping muffins in a bakery factory and filling palate orders.
Here’s where the hard truth comes out…I along with 15 or so others were let go citing cut backs. Thing is we were replaced by illegals. I know, because one of the old timer bakers that had been let go had them busted for hiring undocumented workers. They closed down 3 months later. I didn’t know, I was 15 I only found out later when my parents explained what had happened. I did know that I was busting my hump in a hot bakery trying to earn money that summer and then bam, I’m out.
There’s still the ‘that jobs beneath me’ factor. The overindulged kid contingent, and as I stated above now college is so competitive that most kids need things other than McD’s fry guy or delivery guy on their applications like major volunteer work.
And for the record. I didn’t say that illegals WERE the problem. I said they were a PART of it. However, you’d be naive to say that illegals and those who employ them don’t contribute to the problem.
No, better to hate on the out of work Americans and defend people who are here illegally. Good job you’re very P.C.
dirty laundry pick up at hospital
carpet warehouse carpet-lugger
cold store packer
garbage transfer station shoveller
stable boy (just mucking out basically)
veterinary surgery cleaner
I missed it too! Great to see Mr xenophobic, the nativist par excellence, everyone-get-out-of-my hood ranter shout down others by taking the moral high ground in support of illegal immigration and then shout out “hypocrite”. Classic.
I hope he’ll post tomorrow about how he’s disgusted with everyone on this board and that his napalm is nearly cooked or whatever.
My 2 cents re illegal immigration – Reagan had the chance to fix it and chose instead to pass it on to future generations.
All I can is that this is just one more issue which undermines trust in how our society operates. One more straw on that camel’s back.
Whatever the “truth” may be, the fact that millions of legal immigrants and citizens PERCEIVE that they are following the rules and getting screwed while someone else gets a “free ride” is just more fuel for the fire that is smoldering.
Add to that resentment over banker bailouts and it won’t be a surprise to see more middle class choose to opt out of what used to be called the rat race and instead go for a smaller nicer lifestyle that, incidentally, will kick in fewer taxes. Just some thoughts…
What’s great about a Bathroom Bidet Sprayer? It’s great because it let’s you win. With a Bathroom Bidet Sprayer you win in so many ways if it was a woman I’d marry it. First off you win by saving money and what in these times is better than that, well ok a bailout may be better but get in line. With these you almost don’t need toilet paper anymore. By almost eliminating the need for toilet paper the savings are immediate and long lasting. Not saying you have to give up toilet paper, you can still use it and even buy the soft stuff without feeling guilty because you will be using so little. Next you win by giving yourself some healthy side benefits namely a lessening of hemorrhoids, should you have them, and the virtual elimination of rectal itch. Now we move onto the fact that you are helping the environment by lowering the amount of toilet paper used and therefore manufactured which saves water, electricity, and pollution. Now there is the hygiene factor and unless you think wiping your hands off with a dry paper towel is cleaner than washing them then you get the point. I think Dr. Oz on Oprah said it best: “if you had pee or poop on your hand, you wouldn’t wipe it off with paper, would you? You’d wash it off” There is the convenience of having such a handy means of washing up with after which at times, say after that big burrito you had at lunch, can get a might messy. That is the main reason why stand alone conventional bidets were invented but they are too expensive and don’t even work as well as the Hand Bidet Sprayer. Lastly there is the least practical but potentially the most influential reason of all……it just feels good. Cleaner, fresher, rejuvenating even. Can you imagine not brushing you teeth after a big meal? I can’t, and I can’t imagine just wiping with dry toilet paper and leaving it at that…..shudder. This is the best thing since the toilet was invented, give it a try. http://www.bathroomsprayers.com
What,
I can’t for the life of me figure out why you went off on me. In my last comments to you I agreed with you that jfb’s posts were bigoted and offered my rationale as to why I didn’t bother to call him on it. I did not accuse you of racism — quite the contrary, I made clear that I was not — but you react as if I did. My only point, with which you seem to disagree, is that it is not class warfare not to jump down the throat of someone who makes a bigoted remark. There are many ways to respond, including not bothering.
It seems pointless to engage in a discussion with you because whenever a conversation has even the slightest chance of moving off square one into a real dialogue, you sabotage it with a gratuitous attack. For all the bravado, I think you operate from a fearful position, fearful of taking the risks required to have a meaningful dialogue and to actually listen and comprehend the positions and reasoning of those with whom you disagree, to the point where you actually make enemies of people who even agree with you on some things.
So go ahead, keep me on mute. I tried to have a dialogue, but dialogue really isn’t what you want. I am always happy to converse with you if it is a real conversation, but I am not going to keep beating my head against a wall.
ENY:
So let me get this straight, you say:
“So, they’ve got to come up with a way to make money. ANY type of job will do, or some money-making idea of their “own. What makes these kids so special that they shouldn’t have to apply themselves even if it is tough to find work? Scapegoating ANYONE is just an excuse.”
“If they find themselves competing for the LOWEST level of jobs, with illegal immigrants, and haven’t acquired the skills to get ahead, I can’t feel sorry for them.”
Two words: Car wash.”
———————————————————-
Contradicting yourself. In one breath you say ‘what makes these kids so special they shouldn’t apply themselves’. In the next you laud them for trying to get low end jobs and not having acquired the skill sets. Then your grand idea is a Car Wash?
YES! Great idea. that’s exactly how they’ll learn great skills that are real resume builders.
How can you possibly be serious? You’d rather see someone that is in the country illegally, earning the money and sending it out of the country without contributing taxes like you and I get a job delivering pizzas, busing tables or washing dishes or any of those other jobs in a restaurants kitchen instead of some American H.S. kid who is trying to make some money cause his family is strapped. Or how about the guy that got laid off when his company folded, his unemployment is is running out and delivering pies sounds better than not having ZERO dollars coming in to feed his family.
The long held excuse for letting them come and stay in the country was because American’s don’t want those jobs. You know, that is partially true. Most don’t. However, there are those that do. I did. When I was a kid those were the jobs I worked. My first job? Individually wrapping muffins in a bakery factory and filling palate orders.
Here’s where the hard truth comes out…I along with 15 or so others were let go citing cut backs. Thing is we were replaced by illegals. I know, because one of the old timer bakers that had been let go had them busted for hiring undocumented workers. They closed down 3 months later. I didn’t know, I was 15 I only found out later when my parents explained what had happened. I did know that I was busting my hump in a hot bakery trying to earn money that summer and then bam, I’m out.
There’s still the ‘that jobs beneath me’ factor. The overindulged kid contingent, and as I stated above now college is so competitive that most kids need things other than McD’s fry guy or delivery guy on their applications like major volunteer work.
And for the record. I didn’t say that illegals WERE the problem. I said they were a PART of it. However, you’d be naive to say that illegals and those who employ them don’t contribute to the problem.
No, better to hate on the out of work Americans and defend people who are here illegally. Good job you’re very P.C.
Jobs I’ve done:
dirty laundry pick up at hospital
carpet warehouse carpet-lugger
cold store packer
garbage transfer station shoveller
stable boy (just mucking out basically)
veterinary surgery cleaner
oh it goes on and on…
When they are bad, they are even better!!!!
I thought you preferred your bad friends dave?
I missed it too! Great to see Mr xenophobic, the nativist par excellence, everyone-get-out-of-my hood ranter shout down others by taking the moral high ground in support of illegal immigration and then shout out “hypocrite”. Classic.
I hope he’ll post tomorrow about how he’s disgusted with everyone on this board and that his napalm is nearly cooked or whatever.
And consider many of them good friends.