Open Thread

Well, well, well.

Ms.Chiff;

I see that you feel that you are an arbiter in these matters. I repeat my memo to you: drop dead.

Bxgrl;

Just explain one thing to me. What is your reaction to Caroline Kennedy’s forcefully putting herself in the prime running for the vacant Senate seat for NY? This woman has ZERO experience in public affairs, except lending her name as a fund-raising marquee for two years to the NYC schools. She has never run for the mayor of even a small toan or any public office, never spoken out on public issues, never devoted her time to things like community organizing and such, and she has not even voted in some elections, by her own admission. She refuses to divulge her financial background. You talked about interview meltdowns. How about her interviews, which basically consisted of her saying “you know, you know”?

Moreover, I repeat again that she was not approached about this position, as Palin was. She asserted herself, and used her family connections, to shoulder past other folks who HAVE spent years in the public sphere (like, for instance, Andrew Cuomo).

Would you compare her lack of qualifications to that of Sarah Palin?

I find it curious that there has been nary a peep from the East Coast elites over this outrage. This is nothing more than someone feling they are entitled to a public office because of their family name. Where is the outrage from Mauren Dowd and Eleanor Clift? Hmmmm????

Folks can see right through the hypocrisy on full display here. Sam hit the nail right on the head.

I would also remind you that the only time McCain was ahead in the polls was after he announced her as his running mate, and she gave her outstanding speech at the convention. It was John McCain’s own fault that he lost, because he had an inept response to the economic debacle of September 17th.

“I think that alot of people hate her more for her cultural background than her policies, which is unfortunate.”

benson- I really have no idea what you mean by her cultural background. I think most people disliked her in-your-face, you dumb liberals style. I certainly did. She came out of the box swinging and with little to back up her punch. You and sam are far too smart to think she was qualified to be Veep, let alone Prez. Palin was in way over her head and refused to be honest about it. It was all ego, not moxie or courage.
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“I think people in NY and California and other liberal hot spots hated Palin because she decided to have a baby that she knew before hand would be born with Down’s Syndrome. That is a really scary thing to many feminists and abortion-boosters.”

That,sam, is a truly laughable statement. Palin is scary because she was a weapon the right was trying to use to nuke women’s rights and multiculturalism back to the 17th century. so they tried inverting the very meaning of women’s rights. How perfect- a women who got where she was on the backs of feminists before her, now trying to undermine those very rights for other women. Perfect and it failed. Palin was a fake and a hypocrite. She claims she chose to keep the baby- no, she didn’t. She never felt she had a choice to abort, because of her beliefs. The same thing with her daughter. They tried to play it up as a holier than thou “choice”. truth was, Bristol never had a choice either.

Your comment is grossly insulting. Those of us who didn’t drink the Palin Kool-aid are far too smart to fall for the conservative religious right B.S. of the GOP. FYI- being able to dress the moose you shot ISN’T qualification for the presidency. Courage under fire is not shooting wolves from a plane. Religious tolerance is not inviting Jews for Jesus to speak at your church in order to show respect for other faiths. Really, sam. So sorry you fell for it.

No – what scared us was that a religious extremist like Sarah Palin would set back women’s rights, sex education and freedom of religion back about 100 years, while tbeing Bush in heels. But you did illustrate 2 things-

1.even smart men still suffer from misogyny (oh yes- we are all so afraid of Sarah Palin because she wouldn’t abort her child- unlie “feminists”), and

2. McCain was right- men vote with their genitals. Why pick her, when there were other truly qualified, educated and experienced Conservative Republican women they could have picked.

Well, benson said, she’s hot. I would rather he said competent, educated, tolerant, experienced, or knowledgeable about world affairs. Because are my criteria.

Sarah Palin, hm. I admire her ambition, but I am not a fundamentalist, although I was raised one. As for teenage sex without birth control – HOT!

PWNing your own daughter — not so much.

Cobblehiller, thanks for clearing that up. Maybe it is actually a chess metaphor — to take someone’s pawn.

I think people in NY and California and other liberal hot spots hated Palin because she decided to have a baby that she knew before hand would be born with Down’s Syndrome. That is a really scary thing to many feminists and abortion-boosters. The little boy would be the poster child for “mommy could have aborted me but I’m glad she didn’t”. I think she really scared folks in DC and NY. Here was someone who actually stood for something other than herself. She had to be destroyed!!!
Look, I support abortion rights, but I think that there is room in our country for people like Sarah Palin. I admire her actually and I think she showed guts. She had her baby (and we have not seen the last of her or him) she is a real threat to the “flush ’em if they don’t improve your career” crowd. She is a scary lady in that regard, and a governor so she ain’t going anywhere. I am very glad Obama was elected, I voted for him, but I know it takes two political parties to tango, and I think this lady is more formidable than SNL would have you think.

She embarrassed me too, cobblehiller but what upset me more was the the republican Party thought they could foist her off us as the future of feminism. as if we were too stupid to see the cynicism of their choice. Women like Sarah Palin do so much damage because they are so easy to point to and say- see how a “real” woman can succeed and still be a “real woman.” Until you hear her talk and you realize she has absolutely no clue about the world or politics or of advocating for women’s rights, or separation of church and state- or a zillion other things that women have won and she would lose for us.

What can you possibly say about a woman who says it all when she winked at the public on National TV? Maybe it worked when she was a beauty queen, but it’s scary to think she believed that a wink and lipstick gave her an edge. A woman who claimed to show us what a real feminist was- and was not able to make a coherent argument in a debate without parroting a memorized talking point. Someone who showed so little interest in the world outside Alaska she couldn’t discuss Russia (literally at her state’s doorstep!) intelligently.

benson- this is not visceral, “you girls are just jealous” hate. I reject Palin because she was so unqualified and so willing to allow herself to be used by the GOP. And they were stupid enough to think the public wouldn’t look past her butt and boobs to her brains. She’s not dumb- by no stretch- but tell me, did you really, honestly think she was the right person for the job?