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Daphne Surpris, who has operated the impeccably designed coffee spot Ms. Dahlia’s Cafe at 449 Nostrand Ave since last year, recently decided that she would like to expand by opening a bar in an empty space next door. You might think such an entrepreneurial move by someone who’d proven her commitment to the neighborhood and her ability to create a tasteful establishment would be welcomed by Bed Stuy residents, but a Community Board 3 meeting on Monday night revealed widespread disagreement within the community about the bar in particular and the future of the neighborhood in general. Some of those in favor of the application said they were tired of going to Park Slope and Harlem to find “more sophisticated bars.” Other supporters argued that the community should be backing an African American woman wanting to open a business in the area. (“We should be supporting someone who looks like us,” said one person from the audience.) One of the arguments against the bar was that there are some schools nearby, though it was later pointed out that the closest one was an adult learning center. Others worried that adding alcohol to an already dangerous block (dangerous? really?) had the potential to increase violence in the area. A man in his late 20s, whose parents lived nearby, argued that he didn’t want them to worry about the same type of violence he felt growing up nearby. Despite the naysaying, the community board ended up supporting the application for the liquor license, so now it’s on to the State Liquor Authority for Surpris, who, ironically, plans to call the new spot Nobar. GMAP


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  1. “If someone opens a business with “overpriced crap”, and there is a market for whatever that is, they will succeed. If not, they will close. It is not up to a community board to make marketing decisions of that kind. That is free enterprise. ”

    Montrose;

    Welcome to The Light!!!

    😉

  2. and also im not at all saying it wouldnt be good for the area, of course it would be. just that some people dont like those kinds of frou frou establishments, case closed. and they are just being very vocal about it.

    *rob*

  3. Rob, please. If someone opens a business with “overpriced crap”, and there is a market for whatever that is, they will succeed. If not, they will close. It is not up to a community board to make marketing decisions of that kind. That is free enterprise. The community board’s role is to make sure regulated businesses; the ones that need licenses, only open in allowable places, as per the zoning codes and laws of New York City. As I am sure you know, liquor licenses are one of those regulated things, and must be approved by the community board, then the city and state. For that matter, I wouldn’t be able to open a propane tank filling store there, either. That’s what community boards should be worried about, not the ethnicity of the petitioner.

  4. well montrose already did say that it’s really expensive. and some people dont like that crap. they are just voicing their concerns.

    *rob*

    Yes, I’m sure what this corner really needs is another cheap shitty Chinese restaurant or Crown chicken, Spike Lee’s comments about “white linen tablecloths” notwithstanding.

  5. I encourage people to go to CB3 meetings. I have heard many, uhm, quote-worthy statements. Maybe that would happen less often if the meetings were better attended by the general public.

  6. quote:
    rob…actually you too can STFU. You’ve never been to Ms. Dahlia’s and never even been to the neighborhood. You don’t know what this place sells

    well montrose already did say that it’s really expensive. and some people dont like that crap. they are just voicing their concerns.

    *rob*

  7. rob…actually you too can STFU. You’ve never been to Ms. Dahlia’s and never even been to the neighborhood. You don’t know what this place sells.

    And the uber-yuppie food at Saraghina seems to be selling well to everyone in the neighborhood, including the pastries at brunch.

  8. I have a firm grip.
    Yours is the limp one.
    My community is not just b/w it has many complex grey shades that
    you can only fully understand by not just living here but being a part of that fabric.

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