Monday Links
Long Island City Comes Into Its Own [NY Times] A Former Apartment-Sharer Goes Solo [NY Times] For Mortgage Shoppers, Less Can Be More [NY Times] Demand Grows for F.H.A. Mortgages [NY Times] Crown Heights Shop Busy Making Subway Signs [NY Times] Last Holdouts to Nets’ Arena Project Move Out [NY Post] Red Hook Mom Helps…
Long Island City Comes Into Its Own [NY Times]
A Former Apartment-Sharer Goes Solo [NY Times]
For Mortgage Shoppers, Less Can Be More [NY Times]
Demand Grows for F.H.A. Mortgages [NY Times]
Crown Heights Shop Busy Making Subway Signs [NY Times]
Last Holdouts to Nets’ Arena Project Move Out [NY Post]
Red Hook Mom Helps Troubled Youth [NY Daily News]
Pratt P.O. To Be Closed for a Year [Brooklyn Paper]
Bed-Stuy Multi-Family Sells for $1.658 Million [Brooklyn Eagle]
Deputy Mayor Hedges on Arena Opening Date [AY Report]
Meeting to Select Community Rep for Gowanus Clean-Up [PMFA]
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an illegal mexican immigrant is a gentrifier according to his definition.
FSRG needs a hug like woah.
jessibaby – this discussion has reached its logical conclusion
YOU define gentrification as changing the “services or cultural values” – most discussions use a definition focused simply on an economic one involving displacement – but whatever…
2 – there is no weaker argument than the “strawman” – I never said that renting in B.H. made you a gentrifier the same as…..[insert most extreme example you can imagine] – All I said was that in our own way we are all gentrifiers {ECONOMIC} of “SOME SORT” (obviously referring to the various degrees that you want to ignore).
It is clear to me that you are just a judgmental prick with an ugly case of schadenfreude. I am sorry if my analysis in anyway negatively impacts your view that everything you do is wonderful and everything everyone else does (especially those more successful than you) is evil, stupid and greedy. Feel free to go back to your comfortable place of superiority.
“Gentrification and urban gentrification denote the socio-cultural changes in an area resulting from wealthier people buying housing property in a less prosperous community.”
I’m renting in BK Heights. This has not changed the services or cultural values there.
“Also you ignore the knock-on effects I describe above…your added demand eventually reaches the “poor” “deteriorated” areas of Brooklyn.”
Yeah, I’m just as culpable for renting in what has long been (save a few patches of history) an established upper middle class neighborhood as someone who buys a building, figures out a way to get rid of the stabilized tenants, opens a boutique with five dollar coffees, and then sells at a profit to another asshat.
Also you ignore the knock-on effects I describe above…your added demand eventually reaches the “poor” “deteriorated” areas of Brooklyn.
I think “revitalization” is a pretty subjective term….
I think (from your list) the Wikipedia definition is the most objective one:
Gentrification and urban gentrification denote the socio-cultural changes in an area resulting from wealthier people buying housing property in a less prosperous community.
Which is what I am referring to
I guess we have a different definition of gentrification – while increased demand is part of it, I always thought that it had to be preceded by some sort of “neighborhood revitalization.”
Some definitions from around the web:
http://bk.ly/rIf
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just remember that unless you still live in your parents home – we are all gentrifiers of some sort.
WRONG. some of us are degentrifiers.
*rob*
your renting is effectively adding demand (as opposed if you stayed in your parents place) demand raises prices, therefore someone else is less able to afford an apartment in Brooklyn Heights and is therefore ‘gentrified out” – for example maybe the kid of the Brooklyn Heights family that live upstairs is forced to move from the neighborhood he spent his whole life in to Carroll Gardens….which creates added demand in Carroll Gardens and that forces the CG resident to move to South Slope, etc, etc, etc…