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Pictures can’t really do justice to the latest addition to 4th Avenue’s much-vaunted streetscape and retail scene. Cinder block-o-licious! GMAP


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  1. 1. It maybe that the garage didn’t have enuf fire stop btw the ceiling and the apts.

    2. Sure the place is ugly, nevertheless I could see it being an interesting place to live. Probably one apt per floor,. a bit of outdoor space, and nice light and views from the upper floors.

    3. I keep saying this, but there is no retail in the new 4th Ave condos because the the zoning specifically dis-allows it. The zoning only allows ‘community service’. i.e., medical offices, non-profits and such.

  2. @Miss Muffett: Yeah, I enjoy living between 4th and 5th a lot; but would not want to live on 4th Avenue itself.

    As for the boundaries, I moved here in 1991, and back then would usually hear the boundaries of PS as being park to 4th Ave, Flatbush to 15th. But depends who you talk to, I guess.

  3. “I am old enough to remember when folks considered the edge of respectable Park Slope to be 6th Ave and the upper stretches of 5th Ave had a “Berlin after the war” appearance.”

    Me, too. Some folks here would be quite surprised to know what most New Yorkers though of “Park Slope” at that time.

  4. I saw this building go up and kept wondering what on earth are they thinking? It’s really a monstrosity. As for 4th Ave, I find it a bit scary. A friend got hit by a bus once, and I’m always very cautious when I cross it with my kids. I could not imagine living right on that huge avenue. Some of the blocks betwen 4/5 though seem OK to me – it’s really block by block. I certainly have friends who’ve found homes on those blocks and like being so close to 5th.

  5. I believe you’re not allowed to have a curb cut w/in 60′ of a corner. So if the filing was self-certified, they didn’t know this or ignored it, and it was caught by DOB.

    If they’d maxed out the FAR, which is likely, they’re probably now over, because that enclosed space should now be counted as floor area, even if it’s not accessible.

  6. Lechacal;

    Whether or not 4th Ave is in Park Slope proper, FSRQ’s larger point remains. The rezoning has extended redevelopment to 4th Ave. It continues a process that has been going on for some 30 years. I am old enough to remember when folks considered the edge of respectable Park Slope to be 6th Ave and the upper stretches of 5th Ave had a “Berlin after the war” appearance.

    Definitions of where neighborhoods begin and end change with time. If you ask my father, who is 85, he doesn’t know what the heck Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, Gowanus and Boerum Hill are. He still refers to all these areas as that which he knew when he was growing up: South Brooklyn.

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