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  1. whatever you think about sonny carson and the right of the community to name its heroes–i question the wisdom of honoring someone who carries the weight of so much negativity. it seems to be that the people pushing this are of a certain ilk–a certain type of old school brooklyn activist who no longer speaks for many younger african americans although i do not doubt that that type of activist still speaks to/for many. most importantly, i KNOW that there is no ground swell, no clamoring to change the name of Gates to Carson. so who are these city council people representing? james abstained from the vote because she is at the crossroads of old and new brooklyn.

  2. uh lets calm down people. 2:45 care to address any of my points or all you got is “na na yer stoopid”.

    nothing is wrong with renting my point was simply that if you rent in a neighborhood for a long time it does not entitle you to live there forever. i’ve rented and been forced to move when i couldn’t afford it any longer. its called life.

  3. the reason i have a home is because my parents helped me with a down payment. because i chose to teach, i would never had made enough money to buy a wonderful brownstone in a nice neighborhood.

    the only reason my parents were able to buy their house is because they purchased in clinton hill when it was cheap. fortunately for me, they have tons of equity. also they were lucky enough to have great parents with high expectations.

    my home ownership is built on the back of my parents and their ownership on theirs. and my grandparents on theirs. we are lucky.

    this luck does not give me the right to look down on people who have not been quite as lucky or who didn’t have the sense to buy in clinton hill/ park slope/ft. greene, whatever, before it was too late.

    some of my friends’ families were sharecroppers while my family was snapping up brownstones. the deck is stacked in my favor.

    so while i agree that there are issues of poverty /class that intersect with behavior, much of it is also due to dumb luck. or lack thereof.

  4. condo dweller- if you think 2:35 is right about people who rent, you are in the same ignorant boat he is. Sorry for you too. That’s the trouble with arrogant fools like you who think they know everything because they have money. Just points up that you can’t buy brains.

  5. well of course you wouldn’t get it 2:35. The sheer stupidity of claiming if a family has been renting for 4 generations they have other issues is incredible. Oh, I’m sorry- I guess you thought you had the intelligence and education to actually make a real analytical statement of worth. Let me correct you- you don’t.

  6. Anon 12:37 how exactly are families forced out that have been there for generations. Either they own and can stay or sell and make money. If a family has been renting for four generations they have other issues.

    Why won’t someone subsidize me so I can live in Beverly Hills? I don’t get it.

  7. The gentrification issue is tough but I think the rhetoric of the conference attendees was unfortunate. The people of Darfur are refugees or the people in the former Zaire.

    Yet, I can’t imagine how tough it must be to be forced to leave a neighborhood your family has lived in for four generations. Some of these responses are callous–especially the “get a job” variety.

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