Friday Links
Astroland, Coney Island. Photo by S. Reed. More Trouble in Subprime Mortgages [NY Times] No C, Partial L Train Service This Weekend [NY Post] How Crown Heights North Downed Its Dealers [NY Daily News] Stuckey Says He quit, Not Fired [NY Daily News] $25M Rehab for Bed-Stuy Center [NY Daily News] First Annual Anti-Gentrification Conference…
Astroland, Coney Island. Photo by S. Reed.
More Trouble in Subprime Mortgages [NY Times]
No C, Partial L Train Service This Weekend [NY Post]
How Crown Heights North Downed Its Dealers [NY Daily News]
Stuckey Says He quit, Not Fired [NY Daily News]
$25M Rehab for Bed-Stuy Center [NY Daily News]
First Annual Anti-Gentrification Conference [City Limits]
Deal Is Struck To Cut Public Building Costs [NY Sun]
Rogue Renaming for Sonny Carson Street [NY Sun]
Editorial: Sayonara Stuckey [No Land Grab]
Fourth Avenue Rising Right [Brooklyn Paper]
Refinishing Parquet without Sanding? [Forum]
/\Ahhh….I get it now. So becuase you got it on with a Black man, you’re now a civil rights expert. I see…..
I never said white people don’t do drugs. They do a lot of them. That still doesn’t explain what happened during that period. And Crack was certainly far more local. And arson?
…Oh, right “Anger and Resentment” burned down the bronx. No, how ’bout more like Section 8 fraud. But of course, it’s not like “stop snitching” or “cash money” cuases ills, it’s always “white people”.
Believe me, there are many wonderful people living in these communites, but I think I’ll take my chances with a hippie than Tony the pusher.
As for me, I was on Eastern Parkway and New York ave. I got a front row seat to the festivites that was the 1977 blackout. Where were you? Riverdale?
Thought so…..
Have big news for you Pal- I was here. I have seen. I lived through it. I was born here- in the Bronx, raised here- in the Bronx and lived here- in the Bronx and Brooklyn. so please stop spewing platitudes and assumptions like you really know anything. You were here, staying strong? – oh, well, my hero.
“Well, I too have dated Black people, so that’s kind of a lame point.”- if you read my post ( obviously Life is your only degree because you didn’t learn to read), dating isn’t exactly the same thing as my experience is it? So if that’s your best shot, you just lost the pissing contest.
You seem to think putting a starbucks on fulton St. will improve the community. No- it will improve the quality (?) of coffee available in the area, but gentrifyiers are not trying to improve the quality of life for the community. they are trying to improve the quality of their investment by changing that neighborhood to suit themselves.And that causes anger and resentment- the same anger and resentment that burned the Bronx and Harlem and Brooklyn. And it was stoked by landlords who committed arson to empty their buildings. Your version of what happened in NYC is the white person’s media history. Where did you live in the 70’s? Harlem? Bed-Stuy? the Bronx?
Drugs that destroyed Harlem? Do you think dealers got rich selling to poor people in Harlem? No- they got rich selling to rich white folk who loved to throw coke parties and pill parties- it was the 70’s. remember? And if you really did know anything about NYC, you would know that heroin was a “white thing” too. When it comes to drugs, it’s an equal opportunity addiction.
Still and all, common sense- your hissy fit was amusing. Your little manly chest must be quite puffed up with the self importance of having stayed in NYC while the fake ass pussies fled.You are just so special.
“Maybe if some of you had seen the horror and destruction of the 1970s up close you would understand where I come from. Nobody, and I mean, nobody, gave two shits when much of what we now consider “Brownstone” territory was up in flames.
Where were you during the Crack era? How about “The Bronx is burning”? I know where I was, here, in NYC. Staying strong while fake-ass pussies fled for Nassau and Jersey. Which is exactly where I’ll find you when you come face-to-face with the harsh relaites of urban life.”
I was here too, and I stayed while I watched many folks flee for the ‘burbs…
Do our new neighbors have
the gumption and guts to stick out
the roller coaster “good times bad times” in NYC… I’m not too sure when I read some of the posts… it would be great if they did… the city could use an infusion of compassionate, bright, creative and brave spirits… again…
Well, I too have dated Black people, so that’s kind of a lame point.
As for your degrees, I really couldn’t give a damn. Life is my only degree.
Here’s what I know: None of you people gave a rats ass about this city in the 1960s as the beginning of the arsons in the Bronx took place. How about the heroin trafficking that destoryed Harlem? Or maybe the Crack Epidemic.
Yes, it’s quite clear how much people “care” about these communties. Gentrifiers are such a threat. Not like the rampant racial barriers, or failing schools, or violent-culture claiming child after child.
Do I care about poor people, yes, I do. It’s that care that makes me believe this is one of the best things to happen to Brooklyn in a long time. More money for the schools. More eyes on the street. More incetive for the NYPD to get off it’s ass and shut down the dealers. More people patronizing Black-owned buisnesses.
There are countless working-class neighborhoods that will remain that way for a very long time. In all honesty, the amount of the city that is gentrified is very, very small. Maybe 5% of neighborhoods at most. I would say there are far more pressing problems facing inner-city minorites than some fresh light-skinned faces.
Maybe if some of you had seen the horror and destruction of the 1970s up close you would understand where I come from. Nobody, and I mean, nobody, gave two shits when much of what we now consider “Brownstone” territory was up in flames.
Where were you during the Crack era? How about “The Bronx is burning”? I know where I was, here, in NYC. Staying strong while fake-ass pussies fled for Nassau and Jersey. Which is exactly where I’ll find you when you come face-to-face with the harsh relaites of urban life.
well, common sense, who do you think the proposed pay to play toll will hurt most? I think you underestimate – or are perhaps ignorant- of the way this City changes and has changed over the years. I was born in the Bronx and grew up here- I think my credibility is a heck of a lot better than yours unless living in North Carolina makes you an expert on the “North.”
If you had used “common sense” you would have understood the use of hyperbole to make a point. No kidding? Really?…No checkpoint in Tribeca- oh what was I thinking???!!!!! Ah, you literal minded folk- no imagination, no vision, no humor.I don’t underestimate the power of the working class at all. I’m part of it. ANd New Yorker to the bone.
fortuna is a fake, but white girl? Why would you think she’s a self-hating white person? It may surprise you to know that there are plenty of us white folk out here who don’t like what’s happening in these neighborhoods. not because we’re self-hating or anything else other than concerned about the future of NYC.
So if you didn’t get the hyperbole, I don’t know how you think you are going to get the rest of it. As for my credibility- I think I have several shreds of it left- my degree is in anthropology/ social science. I’ve lived in Black or mixed communities most of my life,was married to a Black man for many years and presently rent from a friend who is Black. What are your credentials in? Posting to the web?
I think you underestimate just how much working class exists and will always exist here. All I see in Queens in immigrant family after immigrant family. Once I saw your last post about checkpoints, your credibilty went to zero. UES doesn’t have checkpoints. Neither does Tribeca.
I think white chick and Fortuna are what’s at play here. Fake-ass, self hating white folk who are trying to escape suburbia by living in the ghetto. That’a all.
How about letting things change and watch it all settle out? Like how NY usually does.
I don’t think NYC is losing its’ soul because the demographics (the people) are changing.I think all NYC is losing out because we are pushing out the working class who are the backbone of any healthy city, and because we are making everything about money, including the right to live where you want. I certainly don’t agree with Fortuna, who I think is simply trying to be outrageous in the hopes of bringing out the worst in people.
But if anyplace is a perfect illustration of the cycle of history, it’s NYC. Every wave of immigrants replaced another. It’s just that it used to be a more organic, natural process that happened over several generations. today its like a precise hit- and I think people are right to resent being told- as I’ve been told on this very thread- that since they have more money they have the right to force me out. Then I am the one called the person with an air of entitlement.
Too many people refuse to see the correlation between a good strong community and property values. And they don’t seem to want to understand that a community can only be healthy if it as as broad an economic/social/cultural base as possible. We’re in danger of seeing Manhattan and whole tracts of Brooklyn become ghettos for the rich. I can’t wait til they start to build security walls with checkpoints so that us lesser folk can get in to clean their houses.
Ummm, well this “horrible fucking white person” happens to be quite interested in Brooklyn’s Black community.
Anyway, I have no beef with the demogrpahics of Bed-Stuy, but I do have beef with people like Fortuna who think that NY is losing it’s soul just becuase the demogrpahics are changing.
Last time I heard this kind of shit was when I was in…………………………………………………….North Carolina…
This city used to be a refuge against horrible fucking white people from North Carolina. Now a bunch of “anonymous” pussies think they are New Yorkers because why? Because they can afford to buy houses? You people are human cancer.